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taylorsmommy
07-21-2010, 01:30 PM
Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with colloidal silver, especially in regards to giving it to children. My daughter with CF has cultured MRSA for 5 years. I have read about some adults having success with it, but I don't know how safe it is. I am just interested in it and researching it right now, I do not plan on giving anything to my child before talking to her doctor obviously, but any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

taylorsmommy
07-21-2010, 01:30 PM
Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with colloidal silver, especially in regards to giving it to children. My daughter with CF has cultured MRSA for 5 years. I have read about some adults having success with it, but I don't know how safe it is. I am just interested in it and researching it right now, I do not plan on giving anything to my child before talking to her doctor obviously, but any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

taylorsmommy
07-21-2010, 01:30 PM
Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with colloidal silver, especially in regards to giving it to children. My daughter with CF has cultured MRSA for 5 years. I have read about some adults having success with it, but I don't know how safe it is. I am just interested in it and researching it right now, I do not plan on giving anything to my child before talking to her doctor obviously, but any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

ehtansky21
07-21-2010, 09:55 PM
i have been interested in it for my boys also. I will let you know if I find any info. Please let me know what you find also<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

blessings,
missa

ehtansky21
07-21-2010, 09:55 PM
i have been interested in it for my boys also. I will let you know if I find any info. Please let me know what you find also<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

blessings,
missa

ehtansky21
07-21-2010, 09:55 PM
i have been interested in it for my boys also. I will let you know if I find any info. Please let me know what you find also<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
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<br />blessings,
<br />missa

Ratatosk
07-21-2010, 11:41 PM
there was someone on healthboards who mentioned giving it to their small child and was horrified they were even nebbing it, but IMO, I'd be VERY concerned about the quality of the product among other things. Isn't there a guy in Washington state who turned blue from taking too much silver orally?

Ratatosk
07-21-2010, 11:41 PM
there was someone on healthboards who mentioned giving it to their small child and was horrified they were even nebbing it, but IMO, I'd be VERY concerned about the quality of the product among other things. Isn't there a guy in Washington state who turned blue from taking too much silver orally?

Ratatosk
07-21-2010, 11:41 PM
there was someone on healthboards who mentioned giving it to their small child and was horrified they were even nebbing it, but IMO, I'd be VERY concerned about the quality of the product among other things. Isn't there a guy in Washington state who turned blue from taking too much silver orally?

theLostMiler
07-22-2010, 01:28 AM
@Liza

The guy who turned blue, took colloidal silver like water for like 15 years! I have used ionic silver (works differently, I think it takes a proton from certain bacterias and thats how it kills it) for years now, mainly like I use hydrogen and peroxide. I use it on cuts, burns (which they use it in hospitals for even though the FDA or someone tried to get them to stop). I use it to gargle with when I start to feel a sore throat (IT WORKS!). I used to use it w/ stomach issues, but I dont do that anymore b/c I am already on enough abx to kill whats in my guts (good and bad). I used it on my face when I was having acne problems. My grandma swears by it and she often carries it in a spray bottle and sprays the air when someone coughs (it was a joke at her last job haha). It could all be a placebo effect, but I find it works well for the uses I have found.

@OP
I am also interested in nebulizing it, but never will b/c its not sterile when made in my home (even though it has antibiotic properties). My dad and grandma and grandpa (all w/o CF) have used my old nebulizers or their own with colloidial (though what we make is actually ionic silver) when they have colds and stuff. My grandma is very into looking up alternative methods, but of course since in the US non of that is regulated it is hard to "risk" trying it. The stories sound too good to be true sometimes, but I agree though that a lot of the alternative methods are cheap and easily made which equals no money for pharm companies (I know thats a sort of conspiracy theory, but it doesnt sound to out of the question for me to believe if it was ever found to be true).

National Jewish in Denver (who deal with non-tuberculosis mycobacterias) I believe are actually doing some clinical trials with it inhaled, though last time I found out about it, there wasnt much being released. I would love to get in on the clinical trial though!

Lastly, it never hurts to 'search' the keyword ''silver'' because I know there have been posts on it before but I dont remember everything they entail.

I doubt your doctor will let you nebulize it though, my old adult doctor was very skeptical of alternative methods (ironically, she works for a pharm company now... the one who made cayston), and when I told her I used silver for my various reasons, she said, "Well all I see it doing is making your poop sparkly."

theLostMiler
07-22-2010, 01:28 AM
@Liza

The guy who turned blue, took colloidal silver like water for like 15 years! I have used ionic silver (works differently, I think it takes a proton from certain bacterias and thats how it kills it) for years now, mainly like I use hydrogen and peroxide. I use it on cuts, burns (which they use it in hospitals for even though the FDA or someone tried to get them to stop). I use it to gargle with when I start to feel a sore throat (IT WORKS!). I used to use it w/ stomach issues, but I dont do that anymore b/c I am already on enough abx to kill whats in my guts (good and bad). I used it on my face when I was having acne problems. My grandma swears by it and she often carries it in a spray bottle and sprays the air when someone coughs (it was a joke at her last job haha). It could all be a placebo effect, but I find it works well for the uses I have found.

@OP
I am also interested in nebulizing it, but never will b/c its not sterile when made in my home (even though it has antibiotic properties). My dad and grandma and grandpa (all w/o CF) have used my old nebulizers or their own with colloidial (though what we make is actually ionic silver) when they have colds and stuff. My grandma is very into looking up alternative methods, but of course since in the US non of that is regulated it is hard to "risk" trying it. The stories sound too good to be true sometimes, but I agree though that a lot of the alternative methods are cheap and easily made which equals no money for pharm companies (I know thats a sort of conspiracy theory, but it doesnt sound to out of the question for me to believe if it was ever found to be true).

National Jewish in Denver (who deal with non-tuberculosis mycobacterias) I believe are actually doing some clinical trials with it inhaled, though last time I found out about it, there wasnt much being released. I would love to get in on the clinical trial though!

Lastly, it never hurts to 'search' the keyword ''silver'' because I know there have been posts on it before but I dont remember everything they entail.

I doubt your doctor will let you nebulize it though, my old adult doctor was very skeptical of alternative methods (ironically, she works for a pharm company now... the one who made cayston), and when I told her I used silver for my various reasons, she said, "Well all I see it doing is making your poop sparkly."

theLostMiler
07-22-2010, 01:28 AM
@Liza
<br />
<br />The guy who turned blue, took colloidal silver like water for like 15 years! I have used ionic silver (works differently, I think it takes a proton from certain bacterias and thats how it kills it) for years now, mainly like I use hydrogen and peroxide. I use it on cuts, burns (which they use it in hospitals for even though the FDA or someone tried to get them to stop). I use it to gargle with when I start to feel a sore throat (IT WORKS!). I used to use it w/ stomach issues, but I dont do that anymore b/c I am already on enough abx to kill whats in my guts (good and bad). I used it on my face when I was having acne problems. My grandma swears by it and she often carries it in a spray bottle and sprays the air when someone coughs (it was a joke at her last job haha). It could all be a placebo effect, but I find it works well for the uses I have found.
<br />
<br />@OP
<br />I am also interested in nebulizing it, but never will b/c its not sterile when made in my home (even though it has antibiotic properties). My dad and grandma and grandpa (all w/o CF) have used my old nebulizers or their own with colloidial (though what we make is actually ionic silver) when they have colds and stuff. My grandma is very into looking up alternative methods, but of course since in the US non of that is regulated it is hard to "risk" trying it. The stories sound too good to be true sometimes, but I agree though that a lot of the alternative methods are cheap and easily made which equals no money for pharm companies (I know thats a sort of conspiracy theory, but it doesnt sound to out of the question for me to believe if it was ever found to be true).
<br />
<br />National Jewish in Denver (who deal with non-tuberculosis mycobacterias) I believe are actually doing some clinical trials with it inhaled, though last time I found out about it, there wasnt much being released. I would love to get in on the clinical trial though!
<br />
<br />Lastly, it never hurts to 'search' the keyword ''silver'' because I know there have been posts on it before but I dont remember everything they entail.
<br />
<br />I doubt your doctor will let you nebulize it though, my old adult doctor was very skeptical of alternative methods (ironically, she works for a pharm company now... the one who made cayston), and when I told her I used silver for my various reasons, she said, "Well all I see it doing is making your poop sparkly."
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CyrilCrodius
05-08-2012, 08:56 AM
If you do nebulize it, be VERY attentive to any sign of wheezing, which would mean that it caused inflammation.

CyrilCrodius
05-08-2012, 08:56 AM
If you do nebulize it, be VERY attentive to any sign of wheezing, which would mean that it caused inflammation.

Vaultboy
05-08-2012, 10:10 PM
@thelostmiler: you nearly right. as you said you actually use ionic silver. the answer is in the name. the silver particle is an positively charged ion, so can "steal" elektrons from other molecules. it can take an elektron from an oxygen atom in onecelled organisms (bacteria). that lets the oxygen collapse an the bacteria dies.

Vaultboy
05-08-2012, 10:10 PM
@thelostmiler: you nearly right. as you said you actually use ionic silver. the answer is in the name. the silver particle is an positively charged ion, so can "steal" elektrons from other molecules. it can take an elektron from an oxygen atom in onecelled organisms (bacteria). that lets the oxygen collapse an the bacteria dies.

age
05-10-2012, 10:55 AM
You will not turn blue from pure colloidal silver research it. Try it yourself before giving it to your child. It is a personal decision. not to be judged by anyone elese. Your cf doctor cannot go along with the use of it. Should we leave our children with MRSA just because america does not have a good med for it.The warnings on the meds we use are unbelievable compared to silver,glutathione,probiotics, and other natural things that can help our cf community.These things are not going to be researched and we will never be told that it is okay to use them.

age
05-10-2012, 10:55 AM
You will not turn blue from pure colloidal silver research it. Try it yourself before giving it to your child. It is a personal decision. not to be judged by anyone elese. Your cf doctor cannot go along with the use of it. Should we leave our children with MRSA just because america does not have a good med for it.The warnings on the meds we use are unbelievable compared to silver,glutathione,probiotics, and other natural things that can help our cf community.These things are not going to be researched and we will never be told that it is okay to use them.

cppoignand
05-10-2012, 03:41 PM
We used inhaled ionic silver and hydrogen peroxide last Summer with our 12 year old daughter. We believe that it really helped her sx at the time and the eradication of pseudomonas. Prior to using it, we spoke with different chemists and manufacturers and ultimately chose a preferred method, which followed guidelines created by a chemist and manufacturer, who was highly knowledgable and happy to assist us. If anyone would like that information, please feel free to email me at [email protected], and I will forward you to my husband, who can be most helpful with this. I will add a precaution that I became curious about...During the time we used this method, my daughter became anxious about the structure of her day and the whereabouts of her parents. I am not sure if is developmental or if her concerns may have exacerbated by the compounds. I am a mental health specialist and have observed side effects such as this with other antibiotic regimines. Good luck and peace. Courtney

cppoignand
05-10-2012, 03:41 PM
We used inhaled ionic silver and hydrogen peroxide last Summer with our 12 year old daughter. We believe that it really helped her sx at the time and the eradication of pseudomonas. Prior to using it, we spoke with different chemists and manufacturers and ultimately chose a preferred method, which followed guidelines created by a chemist and manufacturer, who was highly knowledgable and happy to assist us. If anyone would like that information, please feel free to email me at [email protected], and I will forward you to my husband, who can be most helpful with this. I will add a precaution that I became curious about...During the time we used this method, my daughter became anxious about the structure of her day and the whereabouts of her parents. I am not sure if is developmental or if her concerns may have exacerbated by the compounds. I am a mental health specialist and have observed side effects such as this with other antibiotic regimines. Good luck and peace. Courtney

LittleLab4CF
05-12-2012, 09:22 AM
I make a habbit of reading all responses for a given topic before adding my own and this is no exception. For too many years I maintained a laoratory version of a GI tract. In a very nerdy way it was pretty cool. I wcnt so far as to use sausage casing for intestinal models.

A friend was deep into colloidal silver in the '90s. I purchased some through him and ran it through my GI test bed. Assuming this is mostly drank therefore it wasn't masticated. But poured a couple recommended dosage down my semipermiable membrane into my model stomach where additional water, enzymes, buffered HCL, were added. My lab stomach was an old stlye ice bag spliced between sections of sausage casing, the upper representing an esophagus, lower section of sausage casing becoming the small intestines it once was.. after adding sodium bicarbonate, pancreatic enzymes and bile. When I released various versions of silver, from colloids to chelate's of varieties.

The upshot of the experimemts was to determine what happens to varieties of silver forms or compounds during digestion. Every colloid was converted to silver solution that readily passes through my model's intestinal walls. I easily could have extracted all of the toxic silver solution, but let half drop into my model of the bowel where bacteria from the small intestine beyond my model duodenum, dropped into a large "intestine" to be further digested and moisture drawn out. When the ratio of silver products to my model GI tract was finished processing, over 85% of whatever "safe" silver passed through my intestine wall was toxic from digestion. Large amounts of silver colloids or other bound forms still converted to toxins, also killing all the carefully grown microbes in my gut model.

After all this imperical data, anecdotal testimonials keep mounting and if my model was absolutely accurate, most silver users should be short for this world. Personally I wouldn't intentionally take silver in any amount. In another life I made jewelry. When I became sick, the first blood test I requested. I had mild heavy metal poisoning and some odd silver compound was the culprit. Prior poisoning put me out of personally trying colloids or other silver compounds. After reading all the wonderful experiences using silver the best I can come up with is a cautionary tale, with one take away. If you intake silver, get tested for silver poisoning often.

LittleLab4CF
05-12-2012, 09:22 AM
I make a habbit of reading all responses for a given topic before adding my own and this is no exception. For too many years I maintained a laoratory version of a GI tract. In a very nerdy way it was pretty cool. I wcnt so far as to use sausage casing for intestinal models.

A friend was deep into colloidal silver in the '90s. I purchased some through him and ran it through my GI test bed. Assuming this is mostly drank therefore it wasn't masticated. But poured a couple recommended dosage down my semipermiable membrane into my model stomach where additional water, enzymes, buffered HCL, were added. My lab stomach was an old stlye ice bag spliced between sections of sausage casing, the upper representing an esophagus, lower section of sausage casing becoming the small intestines it once was.. after adding sodium bicarbonate, pancreatic enzymes and bile. When I released various versions of silver, from colloids to chelate's of varieties.

The upshot of the experimemts was to determine what happens to varieties of silver forms or compounds during digestion. Every colloid was converted to silver solution that readily passes through my model's intestinal walls. I easily could have extracted all of the toxic silver solution, but let half drop into my model of the bowel where bacteria from the small intestine beyond my model duodenum, dropped into a large "intestine" to be further digested and moisture drawn out. When the ratio of silver products to my model GI tract was finished processing, over 85% of whatever "safe" silver passed through my intestine wall was toxic from digestion. Large amounts of silver colloids or other bound forms still converted to toxins, also killing all the carefully grown microbes in my gut model.

After all this imperical data, anecdotal testimonials keep mounting and if my model was absolutely accurate, most silver users should be short for this world. Personally I wouldn't intentionally take silver in any amount. In another life I made jewelry. When I became sick, the first blood test I requested. I had mild heavy metal poisoning and some odd silver compound was the culprit. Prior poisoning put me out of personally trying colloids or other silver compounds. After reading all the wonderful experiences using silver the best I can come up with is a cautionary tale, with one take away. If you intake silver, get tested for silver poisoning often.

Corynne
08-23-2012, 03:32 PM
Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with colloidal silver, especially in regards to giving it to children. My daughter with CF has cultured MRSA for 5 years. I have read about some adults having success with it, but I don't know how safe it is. I am just interested in it and researching it right now, I do not plan on giving anything to my child before talking to her doctor obviously, but any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

I have a 15 mo old grandson with CF, so this (CF) is all new to me. I am most DEFINITELY an Alternative Medicine person (I am not an individual that can tolerate most med's), but you have to be very careful (most doc's will not want the responsibility nor have the belief for many alternative methods). Concerning Colloidal Silver or other Blood Cleansing types of methods, remember that this also cleanses away the MED's one may be taking. Get very experienced help in Alternative Care before proceeding. Currently I am lost concerning CF but I am going to do all I can do to learn. Just remember knowledge is key as one can be hurt with alternative methods (especially in combination of) as with any other med, if not knowledgeable to interactions or possible ramifications. Good luck to you and research, research, research etc.