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nance
05-24-2007, 08:25 PM
Hi my name is nancy, I am a student of massage therapy in Ontario and I am doing a presentation at my school on CF. I was curious about how many people with CF use therapeutic massage in addition to their health care? Thank you!

nance
05-24-2007, 08:25 PM
Hi my name is nancy, I am a student of massage therapy in Ontario and I am doing a presentation at my school on CF. I was curious about how many people with CF use therapeutic massage in addition to their health care? Thank you!

nance
05-24-2007, 08:25 PM
Hi my name is nancy, I am a student of massage therapy in Ontario and I am doing a presentation at my school on CF. I was curious about how many people with CF use therapeutic massage in addition to their health care? Thank you!

blondelawyer
05-24-2007, 09:09 PM
My husband does.

blondelawyer
05-24-2007, 09:09 PM
My husband does.

blondelawyer
05-24-2007, 09:09 PM
My husband does.

nance
05-24-2007, 09:17 PM
Does he find massage helps in any way regarding his Cf? As in, does it help his breathing or digestion ect.?

nance
05-24-2007, 09:17 PM
Does he find massage helps in any way regarding his Cf? As in, does it help his breathing or digestion ect.?

nance
05-24-2007, 09:17 PM
Does he find massage helps in any way regarding his Cf? As in, does it help his breathing or digestion ect.?

CaliSally
05-24-2007, 09:18 PM
Hi Nance,
I have CF Related Arthritis (due to chronic inflammation). I use massage on occasion for relaxing my tense, tense muscles (combined with NSAIDS).

CaliSally
05-24-2007, 09:18 PM
Hi Nance,
I have CF Related Arthritis (due to chronic inflammation). I use massage on occasion for relaxing my tense, tense muscles (combined with NSAIDS).

CaliSally
05-24-2007, 09:18 PM
Hi Nance,
I have CF Related Arthritis (due to chronic inflammation). I use massage on occasion for relaxing my tense, tense muscles (combined with NSAIDS).

Uli
05-24-2007, 09:45 PM
I do!
There is a special kind of massage, called reflectoric breathing therapy which is a little painful sometimes but helps to breathe deeper which I get once a week.
"Normal" massage is also good for CFers because we cough so hard and it helps to relax the muscles again.

Uli,44,Germany

Uli
05-24-2007, 09:45 PM
I do!
There is a special kind of massage, called reflectoric breathing therapy which is a little painful sometimes but helps to breathe deeper which I get once a week.
"Normal" massage is also good for CFers because we cough so hard and it helps to relax the muscles again.

Uli,44,Germany

Uli
05-24-2007, 09:45 PM
I do!
There is a special kind of massage, called reflectoric breathing therapy which is a little painful sometimes but helps to breathe deeper which I get once a week.
"Normal" massage is also good for CFers because we cough so hard and it helps to relax the muscles again.

Uli,44,Germany

jfarel
05-24-2007, 09:47 PM
My sis is a massage therapist and I was going once a week. It seemed to help. I'll look into that reflectoric breathing therapy.

jfarel
05-24-2007, 09:47 PM
My sis is a massage therapist and I was going once a week. It seemed to help. I'll look into that reflectoric breathing therapy.

jfarel
05-24-2007, 09:47 PM
My sis is a massage therapist and I was going once a week. It seemed to help. I'll look into that reflectoric breathing therapy.

mom2lillian
05-24-2007, 09:57 PM
I love massage it is my absolute favorite thing. I get very tense mid/upper back (around lungs) muscles that dont actually hurt where they are but where they attach which is all around the shoulders and neck.

I am seeing a new chiropractor with a masseus and we are just this week discussing whether my lung issues can be related to my back muscle issues as they say I am one of the worst cases they have seen in a while (for a certain area of my muscles no tthe entire back) for muscle tightness. I was previously going to school for chiropractic and alot of this makes sense I am very interested in it. Also peopel with bad asthma and lung issues usually do not take deep breaths expanding thei rrib cage and chest properly which can also allow muscles to stay and get tight.

During pregnancy I had a deep tissue massage every week and it is the only time I did not have problems. I have also noticed the same muscles that are chronically tight with me really really get sore right before I get sick, I can always tell it is coming before the doctors can tell.

mom2lillian
05-24-2007, 09:57 PM
I love massage it is my absolute favorite thing. I get very tense mid/upper back (around lungs) muscles that dont actually hurt where they are but where they attach which is all around the shoulders and neck.

I am seeing a new chiropractor with a masseus and we are just this week discussing whether my lung issues can be related to my back muscle issues as they say I am one of the worst cases they have seen in a while (for a certain area of my muscles no tthe entire back) for muscle tightness. I was previously going to school for chiropractic and alot of this makes sense I am very interested in it. Also peopel with bad asthma and lung issues usually do not take deep breaths expanding thei rrib cage and chest properly which can also allow muscles to stay and get tight.

During pregnancy I had a deep tissue massage every week and it is the only time I did not have problems. I have also noticed the same muscles that are chronically tight with me really really get sore right before I get sick, I can always tell it is coming before the doctors can tell.

mom2lillian
05-24-2007, 09:57 PM
I love massage it is my absolute favorite thing. I get very tense mid/upper back (around lungs) muscles that dont actually hurt where they are but where they attach which is all around the shoulders and neck.

I am seeing a new chiropractor with a masseus and we are just this week discussing whether my lung issues can be related to my back muscle issues as they say I am one of the worst cases they have seen in a while (for a certain area of my muscles no tthe entire back) for muscle tightness. I was previously going to school for chiropractic and alot of this makes sense I am very interested in it. Also peopel with bad asthma and lung issues usually do not take deep breaths expanding thei rrib cage and chest properly which can also allow muscles to stay and get tight.

During pregnancy I had a deep tissue massage every week and it is the only time I did not have problems. I have also noticed the same muscles that are chronically tight with me really really get sore right before I get sick, I can always tell it is coming before the doctors can tell.

TCNJcystic
05-24-2007, 10:13 PM
Breaking up the intercostals helps me a bit. Also doing some work around my nose really opens up my nasal passages.

TCNJcystic
05-24-2007, 10:13 PM
Breaking up the intercostals helps me a bit. Also doing some work around my nose really opens up my nasal passages.

TCNJcystic
05-24-2007, 10:13 PM
Breaking up the intercostals helps me a bit. Also doing some work around my nose really opens up my nasal passages.

JazzysMom
05-24-2007, 11:14 PM
I use massage therapy alot. In the hospital its more for muscular problems in my back which restrict my airways. At home my hubby massages my back also, but he really concentrates on the one area and I cough up a ton of stuff. Two nights ago I coughed up stuff that just wouldnt move. Its a terrific tool for me!

JazzysMom
05-24-2007, 11:14 PM
I use massage therapy alot. In the hospital its more for muscular problems in my back which restrict my airways. At home my hubby massages my back also, but he really concentrates on the one area and I cough up a ton of stuff. Two nights ago I coughed up stuff that just wouldnt move. Its a terrific tool for me!

JazzysMom
05-24-2007, 11:14 PM
I use massage therapy alot. In the hospital its more for muscular problems in my back which restrict my airways. At home my hubby massages my back also, but he really concentrates on the one area and I cough up a ton of stuff. Two nights ago I coughed up stuff that just wouldnt move. Its a terrific tool for me!

Debi
05-24-2007, 11:41 PM
I also get very tight in my upper back, and find that massage helps loosen things up. I am amazed at how much stuff I cough up after a good massage. I think the standard treatment should be massage, then the vest!!! Wonder if I could get my insurance to pay for that every day!!

Debi
05-24-2007, 11:41 PM
I also get very tight in my upper back, and find that massage helps loosen things up. I am amazed at how much stuff I cough up after a good massage. I think the standard treatment should be massage, then the vest!!! Wonder if I could get my insurance to pay for that every day!!

Debi
05-24-2007, 11:41 PM
I also get very tight in my upper back, and find that massage helps loosen things up. I am amazed at how much stuff I cough up after a good massage. I think the standard treatment should be massage, then the vest!!! Wonder if I could get my insurance to pay for that every day!!

AnD
05-25-2007, 12:28 AM
I'm printing this out for my husband...LOL! A massage every night before I do my vest? Ahhhh.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

AnD
05-25-2007, 12:28 AM
I'm printing this out for my husband...LOL! A massage every night before I do my vest? Ahhhh.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

AnD
05-25-2007, 12:28 AM
I'm printing this out for my husband...LOL! A massage every night before I do my vest? Ahhhh.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

catboogie
05-25-2007, 01:39 AM
hello nance.

if i could afford it, i would get massages once or twice a month. as it is, it's kind of sporadic like when i have the extra cash or just feel out of balance. i have found it really helps my back and neck, shoulders especially.

catboogie
05-25-2007, 01:39 AM
hello nance.

if i could afford it, i would get massages once or twice a month. as it is, it's kind of sporadic like when i have the extra cash or just feel out of balance. i have found it really helps my back and neck, shoulders especially.

catboogie
05-25-2007, 01:39 AM
hello nance.

if i could afford it, i would get massages once or twice a month. as it is, it's kind of sporadic like when i have the extra cash or just feel out of balance. i have found it really helps my back and neck, shoulders especially.

EnergyGal
05-25-2007, 01:51 AM
I would get acupressure massages up and down the spine (spinal flush) from a massage therapist.

I now practice acupressure (touch for health) sedating and strengthening my acupuncture points. I learned how to do this from the book "Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden and David Feinstein.

Tonight I worked on my small intestine points and I coughed up some mucus. I am not sure if it came from my sinuses or chest, it was so fast.

I trace my meridians which is sort of like a massage and work on my spleen points daily.

I have a massage chair and table. Sometimes I drain my sinuses laying down for one hour or more on the table.
Thankfully, my husband knows how to give a professional massage when I need it.

I also practice the Dorn Method. This is a very interesting website to check out if you are a massage therapist. <b>http://www.dorn-method.com/</b>

I have his book (hard cover) e-book, DVD and posters. You will learn so much. Many of the recommendations of what NOT to do I was doing and that could be why I had back pain. I love the exercise he has for against the wall. That works on the bladder meridian. I am sure you know that the bladder meridian is connected to all the meridians in the body. The exercise relaxes all the muscles associated with the spine. Sort of like a self spinal flush. He talks about correcting scolosis. I have a slight problem with that and my bra strap no longer falls off my shoulder.

hope this helps
Risa

EnergyGal
05-25-2007, 01:51 AM
I would get acupressure massages up and down the spine (spinal flush) from a massage therapist.

I now practice acupressure (touch for health) sedating and strengthening my acupuncture points. I learned how to do this from the book "Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden and David Feinstein.

Tonight I worked on my small intestine points and I coughed up some mucus. I am not sure if it came from my sinuses or chest, it was so fast.

I trace my meridians which is sort of like a massage and work on my spleen points daily.

I have a massage chair and table. Sometimes I drain my sinuses laying down for one hour or more on the table.
Thankfully, my husband knows how to give a professional massage when I need it.

I also practice the Dorn Method. This is a very interesting website to check out if you are a massage therapist. <b>http://www.dorn-method.com/</b>

I have his book (hard cover) e-book, DVD and posters. You will learn so much. Many of the recommendations of what NOT to do I was doing and that could be why I had back pain. I love the exercise he has for against the wall. That works on the bladder meridian. I am sure you know that the bladder meridian is connected to all the meridians in the body. The exercise relaxes all the muscles associated with the spine. Sort of like a self spinal flush. He talks about correcting scolosis. I have a slight problem with that and my bra strap no longer falls off my shoulder.

hope this helps
Risa

EnergyGal
05-25-2007, 01:51 AM
I would get acupressure massages up and down the spine (spinal flush) from a massage therapist.

I now practice acupressure (touch for health) sedating and strengthening my acupuncture points. I learned how to do this from the book "Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden and David Feinstein.

Tonight I worked on my small intestine points and I coughed up some mucus. I am not sure if it came from my sinuses or chest, it was so fast.

I trace my meridians which is sort of like a massage and work on my spleen points daily.

I have a massage chair and table. Sometimes I drain my sinuses laying down for one hour or more on the table.
Thankfully, my husband knows how to give a professional massage when I need it.

I also practice the Dorn Method. This is a very interesting website to check out if you are a massage therapist. <b>http://www.dorn-method.com/</b>

I have his book (hard cover) e-book, DVD and posters. You will learn so much. Many of the recommendations of what NOT to do I was doing and that could be why I had back pain. I love the exercise he has for against the wall. That works on the bladder meridian. I am sure you know that the bladder meridian is connected to all the meridians in the body. The exercise relaxes all the muscles associated with the spine. Sort of like a self spinal flush. He talks about correcting scolosis. I have a slight problem with that and my bra strap no longer falls off my shoulder.

hope this helps
Risa

tammykrumrey
05-25-2007, 12:07 PM
I know of some adults with CF who also use massage therapy and say that it is really helps them.

As for expense, try a chiropractic college. We have one here locally who has great rates on massage therapy. The one here in our area does children at no cost if a parent is a 'regular', so I am considering doing this for myself and my two girls<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

tammykrumrey
05-25-2007, 12:07 PM
I know of some adults with CF who also use massage therapy and say that it is really helps them.

As for expense, try a chiropractic college. We have one here locally who has great rates on massage therapy. The one here in our area does children at no cost if a parent is a 'regular', so I am considering doing this for myself and my two girls<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

tammykrumrey
05-25-2007, 12:07 PM
I know of some adults with CF who also use massage therapy and say that it is really helps them.

As for expense, try a chiropractic college. We have one here locally who has great rates on massage therapy. The one here in our area does children at no cost if a parent is a 'regular', so I am considering doing this for myself and my two girls<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

CowTown
05-25-2007, 12:09 PM
Massage helps my muscless relax like everyone is saying. I've also tried acupuncture and that helped my breathing, muscles and sinuses a lot! Insurance won't cover it of course, but it helps and should be recognized.

CowTown
05-25-2007, 12:09 PM
Massage helps my muscless relax like everyone is saying. I've also tried acupuncture and that helped my breathing, muscles and sinuses a lot! Insurance won't cover it of course, but it helps and should be recognized.

CowTown
05-25-2007, 12:09 PM
Massage helps my muscless relax like everyone is saying. I've also tried acupuncture and that helped my breathing, muscles and sinuses a lot! Insurance won't cover it of course, but it helps and should be recognized.

Allie
05-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Ry got a full massage at least twice a month. His doctor recommended it for his CFRA, which was absolutely awful when he started, but the massage therapy was the only thing that really helped his flares go down in frequency and seriousness. He felt like it helped his CF too, not in a "Sir, alert the commissioner!" way, but in a way that was noticable to him.

Allie
05-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Ry got a full massage at least twice a month. His doctor recommended it for his CFRA, which was absolutely awful when he started, but the massage therapy was the only thing that really helped his flares go down in frequency and seriousness. He felt like it helped his CF too, not in a "Sir, alert the commissioner!" way, but in a way that was noticable to him.

Allie
05-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Ry got a full massage at least twice a month. His doctor recommended it for his CFRA, which was absolutely awful when he started, but the massage therapy was the only thing that really helped his flares go down in frequency and seriousness. He felt like it helped his CF too, not in a "Sir, alert the commissioner!" way, but in a way that was noticable to him.

mom2lillian
05-25-2007, 10:59 PM
just thought I would mention that there might be a way to get insurance to cover massage depending on your carrier and coverage.

My old chiropractor billed the massage out as one of the services I was receiving I believe they refer to it as a 'modality of treatment' the billing code is CPT97140 and it is covered by my insurance.

You can call a chiro's office, ask if they have masseus that they are willing to at least call your insuracne to verify if their codes are covered or try sending one through (you will have to pay first most likely) and see if it gets covered. I just switched to a new office and they were not even aware that they could do this so I gave them the billing code and it is working there as well.

I pay the same $15 copay for an adjustment or an adjustment and a 1 hour massage--now there is a no brainer! I get 30 covered visits a year I believe. I know I have really good insurance but it is worth looking in to and you might be surprised!

mom2lillian
05-25-2007, 10:59 PM
just thought I would mention that there might be a way to get insurance to cover massage depending on your carrier and coverage.

My old chiropractor billed the massage out as one of the services I was receiving I believe they refer to it as a 'modality of treatment' the billing code is CPT97140 and it is covered by my insurance.

You can call a chiro's office, ask if they have masseus that they are willing to at least call your insuracne to verify if their codes are covered or try sending one through (you will have to pay first most likely) and see if it gets covered. I just switched to a new office and they were not even aware that they could do this so I gave them the billing code and it is working there as well.

I pay the same $15 copay for an adjustment or an adjustment and a 1 hour massage--now there is a no brainer! I get 30 covered visits a year I believe. I know I have really good insurance but it is worth looking in to and you might be surprised!

mom2lillian
05-25-2007, 10:59 PM
just thought I would mention that there might be a way to get insurance to cover massage depending on your carrier and coverage.

My old chiropractor billed the massage out as one of the services I was receiving I believe they refer to it as a 'modality of treatment' the billing code is CPT97140 and it is covered by my insurance.

You can call a chiro's office, ask if they have masseus that they are willing to at least call your insuracne to verify if their codes are covered or try sending one through (you will have to pay first most likely) and see if it gets covered. I just switched to a new office and they were not even aware that they could do this so I gave them the billing code and it is working there as well.

I pay the same $15 copay for an adjustment or an adjustment and a 1 hour massage--now there is a no brainer! I get 30 covered visits a year I believe. I know I have really good insurance but it is worth looking in to and you might be surprised!