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jjflash
12-07-2006, 04:39 PM
From comments Allie made, I think that the main problem is that she doesn't hear from all the people who appreciate and enjoy her as a friend and as a resource. Negative comments are written clearly, but we just appreciate the positive rather than acknowledging it. From the people I've heard in chat and in the forums and in comments on her blogs, I know that I'm not alone in really valuing her and thinking that as a community we benefit from her existence.

Since her motivation for leaving was that she felt most people wanted her to, I think that those who don't agree with this sentiment should make that clear. This can be through a simple statement that she has helped you in the past or you're appreciated her presence or a longer personal statement or story.

I for one don't really know her well, but I think that the entire community would be dramatically reduced by the loss of her. She is someone who is willing to answer a question, even if it's been asked 30 times and the rest of us are ignoring it. She's someone who's willing to share her thoughts and her experiences when it's hard. She's someone who always remembers birthdays and checks in when she knows we've been sick. She's someone whose willing to do research for others on different mutations. She's someone who's always willing to hang out with you on a rough night. She's someone who takes the time to write words which I seek out. She's someone who is trying so desperately to help anyone and anything she can in the universe. She's someone who's willing to listen even when she doesn't know what to say or how to fix it. She's a wonderful person.

I wish the forums had an invitation function so that we could all send her an invitation so that she would know how welcome and wanted she is here, but hopefully this thread can serve as an opportunity to show her all the wonderful things she does which it seems she's not even aware of.

I'm not looking for people to say they always agree with her or anything. Just identify how she provides value to you.

Thanks!

jjflash
12-07-2006, 04:39 PM
From comments Allie made, I think that the main problem is that she doesn't hear from all the people who appreciate and enjoy her as a friend and as a resource. Negative comments are written clearly, but we just appreciate the positive rather than acknowledging it. From the people I've heard in chat and in the forums and in comments on her blogs, I know that I'm not alone in really valuing her and thinking that as a community we benefit from her existence.

Since her motivation for leaving was that she felt most people wanted her to, I think that those who don't agree with this sentiment should make that clear. This can be through a simple statement that she has helped you in the past or you're appreciated her presence or a longer personal statement or story.

I for one don't really know her well, but I think that the entire community would be dramatically reduced by the loss of her. She is someone who is willing to answer a question, even if it's been asked 30 times and the rest of us are ignoring it. She's someone who's willing to share her thoughts and her experiences when it's hard. She's someone who always remembers birthdays and checks in when she knows we've been sick. She's someone whose willing to do research for others on different mutations. She's someone who's always willing to hang out with you on a rough night. She's someone who takes the time to write words which I seek out. She's someone who is trying so desperately to help anyone and anything she can in the universe. She's someone who's willing to listen even when she doesn't know what to say or how to fix it. She's a wonderful person.

I wish the forums had an invitation function so that we could all send her an invitation so that she would know how welcome and wanted she is here, but hopefully this thread can serve as an opportunity to show her all the wonderful things she does which it seems she's not even aware of.

I'm not looking for people to say they always agree with her or anything. Just identify how she provides value to you.

Thanks!

jjflash
12-07-2006, 04:39 PM
From comments Allie made, I think that the main problem is that she doesn't hear from all the people who appreciate and enjoy her as a friend and as a resource. Negative comments are written clearly, but we just appreciate the positive rather than acknowledging it. From the people I've heard in chat and in the forums and in comments on her blogs, I know that I'm not alone in really valuing her and thinking that as a community we benefit from her existence.

Since her motivation for leaving was that she felt most people wanted her to, I think that those who don't agree with this sentiment should make that clear. This can be through a simple statement that she has helped you in the past or you're appreciated her presence or a longer personal statement or story.

I for one don't really know her well, but I think that the entire community would be dramatically reduced by the loss of her. She is someone who is willing to answer a question, even if it's been asked 30 times and the rest of us are ignoring it. She's someone who's willing to share her thoughts and her experiences when it's hard. She's someone who always remembers birthdays and checks in when she knows we've been sick. She's someone whose willing to do research for others on different mutations. She's someone who's always willing to hang out with you on a rough night. She's someone who takes the time to write words which I seek out. She's someone who is trying so desperately to help anyone and anything she can in the universe. She's someone who's willing to listen even when she doesn't know what to say or how to fix it. She's a wonderful person.

I wish the forums had an invitation function so that we could all send her an invitation so that she would know how welcome and wanted she is here, but hopefully this thread can serve as an opportunity to show her all the wonderful things she does which it seems she's not even aware of.

I'm not looking for people to say they always agree with her or anything. Just identify how she provides value to you.

Thanks!

Diane
12-07-2006, 05:05 PM
I would like Allie to come back. Although i dont know her too well, i always read what she wrote, and valued her because she is on the opposite side of cf and can give info from the experiences RY has been thru. From what i read about RY he went thru a lot ,and we can all learn something ,no matter how little, from what Allie shares . One thing i learned from Allies posts about Ry is that he never gave up or into cf, he lived as full as he could and as long as he could. That kind of info is invaluable to those who are down about their cf , it gives one courage to try to live their life to the fullest. See Allie? I was paying attention and kept the stories with me, even if you thought no-one was

Diane
12-07-2006, 05:05 PM
I would like Allie to come back. Although i dont know her too well, i always read what she wrote, and valued her because she is on the opposite side of cf and can give info from the experiences RY has been thru. From what i read about RY he went thru a lot ,and we can all learn something ,no matter how little, from what Allie shares . One thing i learned from Allies posts about Ry is that he never gave up or into cf, he lived as full as he could and as long as he could. That kind of info is invaluable to those who are down about their cf , it gives one courage to try to live their life to the fullest. See Allie? I was paying attention and kept the stories with me, even if you thought no-one was

Diane
12-07-2006, 05:05 PM
I would like Allie to come back. Although i dont know her too well, i always read what she wrote, and valued her because she is on the opposite side of cf and can give info from the experiences RY has been thru. From what i read about RY he went thru a lot ,and we can all learn something ,no matter how little, from what Allie shares . One thing i learned from Allies posts about Ry is that he never gave up or into cf, he lived as full as he could and as long as he could. That kind of info is invaluable to those who are down about their cf , it gives one courage to try to live their life to the fullest. See Allie? I was paying attention and kept the stories with me, even if you thought no-one was

JazzysMom
12-07-2006, 05:10 PM
I have to disagree a bit. Many many people supported her & told her so. Both thru this forum, my space, messenger, aim & other sources. I nor did anyone else want to see Allie go nor did we ask her to. Allie is in a very bad state of mind. Not from US, but from what life has brought her. Not just thru RY's death, but her childhood etc. I truly believe that whatever negative stuff was put in writing was outweighed greatly by the responses in writing to her blogs & to her directly as well as anyone who actually chatted with her. She comes on or has someone check on things. She is still connected even if you dont see her as much. Just please realize there is a lot to the whole story that took place. More then what was in writing & even that has been deleted. TO answer your ???...Yes Allie has provided value to me in this community. I never denied that fact!

JazzysMom
12-07-2006, 05:10 PM
I have to disagree a bit. Many many people supported her & told her so. Both thru this forum, my space, messenger, aim & other sources. I nor did anyone else want to see Allie go nor did we ask her to. Allie is in a very bad state of mind. Not from US, but from what life has brought her. Not just thru RY's death, but her childhood etc. I truly believe that whatever negative stuff was put in writing was outweighed greatly by the responses in writing to her blogs & to her directly as well as anyone who actually chatted with her. She comes on or has someone check on things. She is still connected even if you dont see her as much. Just please realize there is a lot to the whole story that took place. More then what was in writing & even that has been deleted. TO answer your ???...Yes Allie has provided value to me in this community. I never denied that fact!

JazzysMom
12-07-2006, 05:10 PM
I have to disagree a bit. Many many people supported her & told her so. Both thru this forum, my space, messenger, aim & other sources. I nor did anyone else want to see Allie go nor did we ask her to. Allie is in a very bad state of mind. Not from US, but from what life has brought her. Not just thru RY's death, but her childhood etc. I truly believe that whatever negative stuff was put in writing was outweighed greatly by the responses in writing to her blogs & to her directly as well as anyone who actually chatted with her. She comes on or has someone check on things. She is still connected even if you dont see her as much. Just please realize there is a lot to the whole story that took place. More then what was in writing & even that has been deleted. TO answer your ???...Yes Allie has provided value to me in this community. I never denied that fact!

jbrandonAW
12-07-2006, 05:18 PM
I liked her. I like outspoken people. I don't like talking to people that are always going to agree with what you have to say. I am still not sure what happened and why see left . If you don't want advice,comments, and imput then don't post you presonal crap on the internet for everyone and there brother to see. DUH!

Allie chose to leave, and I think see will be back. Things get hard sometimes and I think that seeing all of us living didn't let her understand why got wouldn't let RY live. I was just getting to know allie before she left and I wish she would come back.

jbrandonAW
12-07-2006, 05:18 PM
I liked her. I like outspoken people. I don't like talking to people that are always going to agree with what you have to say. I am still not sure what happened and why see left . If you don't want advice,comments, and imput then don't post you presonal crap on the internet for everyone and there brother to see. DUH!

Allie chose to leave, and I think see will be back. Things get hard sometimes and I think that seeing all of us living didn't let her understand why got wouldn't let RY live. I was just getting to know allie before she left and I wish she would come back.

jbrandonAW
12-07-2006, 05:18 PM
I liked her. I like outspoken people. I don't like talking to people that are always going to agree with what you have to say. I am still not sure what happened and why see left . If you don't want advice,comments, and imput then don't post you presonal crap on the internet for everyone and there brother to see. DUH!

Allie chose to leave, and I think see will be back. Things get hard sometimes and I think that seeing all of us living didn't let her understand why got wouldn't let RY live. I was just getting to know allie before she left and I wish she would come back.

coltsfan715
12-07-2006, 05:50 PM
I agree with Mel. I think there was alot more to Allie leaving than some negative things that were said on her blog or in response to comments she made. ALOT of people encouraged her to stay and those same people tried telling her that she helps them. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you say to someone if they are hurting - they hear what they want and they take from things what they want even if it is not necessarily how things are meant.

I am hoping that Allie will come back - I am feeling that she will. I think she just needs time to heal a little bit. I think after the holidays she will start to resurface a little more. It just takes a little while some times.

Allie in case you didn't believe everyone before - you are appreciated here and we all care about you AND Ahava. Take Care of yourself and enjoy the Holidays.

Happy Holidays,
Linds

coltsfan715
12-07-2006, 05:50 PM
I agree with Mel. I think there was alot more to Allie leaving than some negative things that were said on her blog or in response to comments she made. ALOT of people encouraged her to stay and those same people tried telling her that she helps them. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you say to someone if they are hurting - they hear what they want and they take from things what they want even if it is not necessarily how things are meant.

I am hoping that Allie will come back - I am feeling that she will. I think she just needs time to heal a little bit. I think after the holidays she will start to resurface a little more. It just takes a little while some times.

Allie in case you didn't believe everyone before - you are appreciated here and we all care about you AND Ahava. Take Care of yourself and enjoy the Holidays.

Happy Holidays,
Linds

coltsfan715
12-07-2006, 05:50 PM
I agree with Mel. I think there was alot more to Allie leaving than some negative things that were said on her blog or in response to comments she made. ALOT of people encouraged her to stay and those same people tried telling her that she helps them. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you say to someone if they are hurting - they hear what they want and they take from things what they want even if it is not necessarily how things are meant.

I am hoping that Allie will come back - I am feeling that she will. I think she just needs time to heal a little bit. I think after the holidays she will start to resurface a little more. It just takes a little while some times.

Allie in case you didn't believe everyone before - you are appreciated here and we all care about you AND Ahava. Take Care of yourself and enjoy the Holidays.

Happy Holidays,
Linds

RH
12-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Allie was the first person to reply to my first post last year, when I was posting under anonymous. In fact she was the only registered member to reply to me and I really appreciated it. I was the one that made the topic: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.cysticfibrosis.com/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=4953">http://forums.cysticfibrosis.c...?catid=5&threadid=4953</a> about a year ago and I've always identified best with Allie while browsing the forums. She probably doesn't even remember me but I'm sad to see her go and hope she returns. I hope if she decides to leave permanently it isn't because she feels unwanted here.

RH
12-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Allie was the first person to reply to my first post last year, when I was posting under anonymous. In fact she was the only registered member to reply to me and I really appreciated it. I was the one that made the topic: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.cysticfibrosis.com/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=4953">http://forums.cysticfibrosis.c...?catid=5&threadid=4953</a> about a year ago and I've always identified best with Allie while browsing the forums. She probably doesn't even remember me but I'm sad to see her go and hope she returns. I hope if she decides to leave permanently it isn't because she feels unwanted here.

RH
12-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Allie was the first person to reply to my first post last year, when I was posting under anonymous. In fact she was the only registered member to reply to me and I really appreciated it. I was the one that made the topic: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.cysticfibrosis.com/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=4953">http://forums.cysticfibrosis.c...?catid=5&threadid=4953</a> about a year ago and I've always identified best with Allie while browsing the forums. She probably doesn't even remember me but I'm sad to see her go and hope she returns. I hope if she decides to leave permanently it isn't because she feels unwanted here.

Scarlett81
12-07-2006, 06:19 PM
I have to agree with Melissa and Lindsey. I suspect that her leaving was more than what was said that day-I think maybe that particular conversation was a final straw for her, or in other words a reason for her to take a break. She's a big girl, and if she wants to take a break I think that is her decision. She has never been a person to back down if someone says something she disagrees with. I think somewhere in her wanted to go. That DOES NOT mean that I wanted her to go! I'd love for her to come back, she was a valuable member of this community.

I can't speak for anyone else but myself, and there was once instance I remember that kind of reminds me of what happened with her a few days ago here-There was a time on this site when I was trying to decide if I should proceed with getting pregnant, or try to adopt instead. I got varied advice and opinions from all. Obiovusly, we made our decision and I am pregnant now. Later I found out that Allie was under the impression that I was anti-adoption. I don't want anyone to think she was mean to me, she wasn't. She just drifted from me, and we talked less. Then when I confronted her about that, she said she the above to me. Well, that couldn't be further from the truth-I was adopted, I love the idea of adoption. I just didn't chose that for my family right now. But the point I'm trying to make is-why did she assume that? B/c she is sensitive. And the other point is, I had through that whole time expressed admiration for her, for her as a mother, as a wife, ect. I always pmd her, trying to console or encourage her. Never ONCE did I say anything negative about her adoption of Ahava or adoption period. In the end we talked things out and were fine. I have great admiration for her, and I always have. I consider her a huge part of this site. But there was a time that she seriously misjudged me-esp when I had never shown her anything but kindness and admiration. I just didn't get it. And this Santa debate-God Allie, I'm so sorry to say this-but it reminds me of that.

So to answer your question, jjflash, yes I have expressed my pride and admiration for her-alot of people here have. But I can't pass judgement on anyone here that is being accused of driving her away. I don't really believe it. I'm sorry if that hurts anyone, I dont' mean it to, honestly. I mean look at Terri-all this controversy around her. I have never known Terri to be anything other than a kind, gentle person. Let her record speak for itself.

This doesn't take away from anything that Allie has been through-she has been to hell and back. She has suffered, she is still suffering and has gone through a pain that you just can't ever really recover from. I really want her to find some peace. She'll never forget Ry or what happened, never. But she can find peace and happiness still in life. I really wish that for her. But she has to find it-no one can give it to her. And people mean well-but they won't always say the "right" thing. Or be thinking-I'm talking to a widow here, I better gentle-up my words. Esp because Allie seems so strong sometimes. But I don't think anyone has been malicious. But again-I was not a member of the discussion the other day so I don't know.

Regardless of all this-Allie, you are missed. You are valuable, I have told you a dozen times how proud I am of you, how in my eyes you are a survivor. And that all still stands. If you want to, come back-but only if you really want to. Whatever you do-I hope you get that peace that you so deserve.

Scarlett81
12-07-2006, 06:19 PM
I have to agree with Melissa and Lindsey. I suspect that her leaving was more than what was said that day-I think maybe that particular conversation was a final straw for her, or in other words a reason for her to take a break. She's a big girl, and if she wants to take a break I think that is her decision. She has never been a person to back down if someone says something she disagrees with. I think somewhere in her wanted to go. That DOES NOT mean that I wanted her to go! I'd love for her to come back, she was a valuable member of this community.

I can't speak for anyone else but myself, and there was once instance I remember that kind of reminds me of what happened with her a few days ago here-There was a time on this site when I was trying to decide if I should proceed with getting pregnant, or try to adopt instead. I got varied advice and opinions from all. Obiovusly, we made our decision and I am pregnant now. Later I found out that Allie was under the impression that I was anti-adoption. I don't want anyone to think she was mean to me, she wasn't. She just drifted from me, and we talked less. Then when I confronted her about that, she said she the above to me. Well, that couldn't be further from the truth-I was adopted, I love the idea of adoption. I just didn't chose that for my family right now. But the point I'm trying to make is-why did she assume that? B/c she is sensitive. And the other point is, I had through that whole time expressed admiration for her, for her as a mother, as a wife, ect. I always pmd her, trying to console or encourage her. Never ONCE did I say anything negative about her adoption of Ahava or adoption period. In the end we talked things out and were fine. I have great admiration for her, and I always have. I consider her a huge part of this site. But there was a time that she seriously misjudged me-esp when I had never shown her anything but kindness and admiration. I just didn't get it. And this Santa debate-God Allie, I'm so sorry to say this-but it reminds me of that.

So to answer your question, jjflash, yes I have expressed my pride and admiration for her-alot of people here have. But I can't pass judgement on anyone here that is being accused of driving her away. I don't really believe it. I'm sorry if that hurts anyone, I dont' mean it to, honestly. I mean look at Terri-all this controversy around her. I have never known Terri to be anything other than a kind, gentle person. Let her record speak for itself.

This doesn't take away from anything that Allie has been through-she has been to hell and back. She has suffered, she is still suffering and has gone through a pain that you just can't ever really recover from. I really want her to find some peace. She'll never forget Ry or what happened, never. But she can find peace and happiness still in life. I really wish that for her. But she has to find it-no one can give it to her. And people mean well-but they won't always say the "right" thing. Or be thinking-I'm talking to a widow here, I better gentle-up my words. Esp because Allie seems so strong sometimes. But I don't think anyone has been malicious. But again-I was not a member of the discussion the other day so I don't know.

Regardless of all this-Allie, you are missed. You are valuable, I have told you a dozen times how proud I am of you, how in my eyes you are a survivor. And that all still stands. If you want to, come back-but only if you really want to. Whatever you do-I hope you get that peace that you so deserve.

Scarlett81
12-07-2006, 06:19 PM
I have to agree with Melissa and Lindsey. I suspect that her leaving was more than what was said that day-I think maybe that particular conversation was a final straw for her, or in other words a reason for her to take a break. She's a big girl, and if she wants to take a break I think that is her decision. She has never been a person to back down if someone says something she disagrees with. I think somewhere in her wanted to go. That DOES NOT mean that I wanted her to go! I'd love for her to come back, she was a valuable member of this community.

I can't speak for anyone else but myself, and there was once instance I remember that kind of reminds me of what happened with her a few days ago here-There was a time on this site when I was trying to decide if I should proceed with getting pregnant, or try to adopt instead. I got varied advice and opinions from all. Obiovusly, we made our decision and I am pregnant now. Later I found out that Allie was under the impression that I was anti-adoption. I don't want anyone to think she was mean to me, she wasn't. She just drifted from me, and we talked less. Then when I confronted her about that, she said she the above to me. Well, that couldn't be further from the truth-I was adopted, I love the idea of adoption. I just didn't chose that for my family right now. But the point I'm trying to make is-why did she assume that? B/c she is sensitive. And the other point is, I had through that whole time expressed admiration for her, for her as a mother, as a wife, ect. I always pmd her, trying to console or encourage her. Never ONCE did I say anything negative about her adoption of Ahava or adoption period. In the end we talked things out and were fine. I have great admiration for her, and I always have. I consider her a huge part of this site. But there was a time that she seriously misjudged me-esp when I had never shown her anything but kindness and admiration. I just didn't get it. And this Santa debate-God Allie, I'm so sorry to say this-but it reminds me of that.

So to answer your question, jjflash, yes I have expressed my pride and admiration for her-alot of people here have. But I can't pass judgement on anyone here that is being accused of driving her away. I don't really believe it. I'm sorry if that hurts anyone, I dont' mean it to, honestly. I mean look at Terri-all this controversy around her. I have never known Terri to be anything other than a kind, gentle person. Let her record speak for itself.

This doesn't take away from anything that Allie has been through-she has been to hell and back. She has suffered, she is still suffering and has gone through a pain that you just can't ever really recover from. I really want her to find some peace. She'll never forget Ry or what happened, never. But she can find peace and happiness still in life. I really wish that for her. But she has to find it-no one can give it to her. And people mean well-but they won't always say the "right" thing. Or be thinking-I'm talking to a widow here, I better gentle-up my words. Esp because Allie seems so strong sometimes. But I don't think anyone has been malicious. But again-I was not a member of the discussion the other day so I don't know.

Regardless of all this-Allie, you are missed. You are valuable, I have told you a dozen times how proud I am of you, how in my eyes you are a survivor. And that all still stands. If you want to, come back-but only if you really want to. Whatever you do-I hope you get that peace that you so deserve.

Jade
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
The few times I chatted with her she made me feel human again. That's not an easy thing to do. Allie seems to have that magnetic personality that makes it easy to talk to her, and loosing her from this site is like witnessing a huge block breaking from an iceberg.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Jade
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
The few times I chatted with her she made me feel human again. That's not an easy thing to do. Allie seems to have that magnetic personality that makes it easy to talk to her, and loosing her from this site is like witnessing a huge block breaking from an iceberg.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

Jade
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
The few times I chatted with her she made me feel human again. That's not an easy thing to do. Allie seems to have that magnetic personality that makes it easy to talk to her, and loosing her from this site is like witnessing a huge block breaking from an iceberg.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

LouLou
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
I disagree as well. Allie was clearly one of the most 'supported' people on this forum. Her writing touched many people enducing them to give her support and feedback. I believe you are new here but if you could only see her blog (which I believe is gone now) and see how many comments per post she'd get you'd see how many people cared about and followed her widowhood transition. If the admin's gave an award to the blog that received the most comments I'd put money on it that it was Allies' blog.

I miss Allie :-(

Besides being the best writer on this site, she was full of insightful thoughts and I enjoyed her perspective.

LouLou
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
I disagree as well. Allie was clearly one of the most 'supported' people on this forum. Her writing touched many people enducing them to give her support and feedback. I believe you are new here but if you could only see her blog (which I believe is gone now) and see how many comments per post she'd get you'd see how many people cared about and followed her widowhood transition. If the admin's gave an award to the blog that received the most comments I'd put money on it that it was Allies' blog.

I miss Allie :-(

Besides being the best writer on this site, she was full of insightful thoughts and I enjoyed her perspective.

LouLou
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
I disagree as well. Allie was clearly one of the most 'supported' people on this forum. Her writing touched many people enducing them to give her support and feedback. I believe you are new here but if you could only see her blog (which I believe is gone now) and see how many comments per post she'd get you'd see how many people cared about and followed her widowhood transition. If the admin's gave an award to the blog that received the most comments I'd put money on it that it was Allies' blog.

I miss Allie :-(

Besides being the best writer on this site, she was full of insightful thoughts and I enjoyed her perspective.

beleache
12-07-2006, 06:59 PM
I really didn't get to know Allie yet, but i wish i had.. The families of people w c/f go through so much.... I hope that she will get through this tough time and we will get to know one another.... Joni ...... 54 y/o w c/f

beleache
12-07-2006, 06:59 PM
I really didn't get to know Allie yet, but i wish i had.. The families of people w c/f go through so much.... I hope that she will get through this tough time and we will get to know one another.... Joni ...... 54 y/o w c/f

beleache
12-07-2006, 06:59 PM
I really didn't get to know Allie yet, but i wish i had.. The families of people w c/f go through so much.... I hope that she will get through this tough time and we will get to know one another.... Joni ...... 54 y/o w c/f

Jane
12-07-2006, 07:48 PM
Although I know Allie is in pain, I can't pretend to understand anything she is feeling. I also can't (or won't) second guess her reason for leaving or when she'll return.

I hope she is well and is able to find peace. If she chooses to come back, she is welcome. To answer the original question, definately yes.

Jane
12-07-2006, 07:48 PM
Although I know Allie is in pain, I can't pretend to understand anything she is feeling. I also can't (or won't) second guess her reason for leaving or when she'll return.

I hope she is well and is able to find peace. If she chooses to come back, she is welcome. To answer the original question, definately yes.

Jane
12-07-2006, 07:48 PM
Although I know Allie is in pain, I can't pretend to understand anything she is feeling. I also can't (or won't) second guess her reason for leaving or when she'll return.

I hope she is well and is able to find peace. If she chooses to come back, she is welcome. To answer the original question, definately yes.

debs2girls
12-07-2006, 08:02 PM
I like Allie, I really do. I dont/wont pretend to agree with her 100% time, because I dont. I am sorry to hear/see that she has left this community.
I have felt like leaving several times myself. I havent and may not...I dont know. I dont post very often because of some reasons I will just keep to myself, but I do read the posts every day at least once.
I know Allie is having a hard time with her life and the fact that Ry has passed away...she needs support in order to come to terms with things, I wont say to get over it or used to it, because I dont think that is what we have to do when we loose someone we love. We have to just learn a new way to live in a world without our loved one. I dont think Allie has alot of moral support in the real world so I (jmo) think she needs to be here where she does have some support.
We will not all agree everyday...just like family, huh?

debs2girls
12-07-2006, 08:02 PM
I like Allie, I really do. I dont/wont pretend to agree with her 100% time, because I dont. I am sorry to hear/see that she has left this community.
I have felt like leaving several times myself. I havent and may not...I dont know. I dont post very often because of some reasons I will just keep to myself, but I do read the posts every day at least once.
I know Allie is having a hard time with her life and the fact that Ry has passed away...she needs support in order to come to terms with things, I wont say to get over it or used to it, because I dont think that is what we have to do when we loose someone we love. We have to just learn a new way to live in a world without our loved one. I dont think Allie has alot of moral support in the real world so I (jmo) think she needs to be here where she does have some support.
We will not all agree everyday...just like family, huh?

debs2girls
12-07-2006, 08:02 PM
I like Allie, I really do. I dont/wont pretend to agree with her 100% time, because I dont. I am sorry to hear/see that she has left this community.
I have felt like leaving several times myself. I havent and may not...I dont know. I dont post very often because of some reasons I will just keep to myself, but I do read the posts every day at least once.
I know Allie is having a hard time with her life and the fact that Ry has passed away...she needs support in order to come to terms with things, I wont say to get over it or used to it, because I dont think that is what we have to do when we loose someone we love. We have to just learn a new way to live in a world without our loved one. I dont think Allie has alot of moral support in the real world so I (jmo) think she needs to be here where she does have some support.
We will not all agree everyday...just like family, huh?

Emily65Roses
12-07-2006, 08:30 PM
She knows how I feel, I talk to her every single day on AIM for hours at a time.

As for anyone who's wondering if she'll be back, etc. I believe she will. She's waiting for the open hostility towards her to vanish before she returns. And you can all say you supported her etc, but some of the comments made were less than supportive. I'm not trying to say anything against anyone (so don't jump up my @ss), because YES she did let them get to her. You all know how I am, and you had to know I told her to tell anyone that hurt her to shove it. But she's more sensitive than I am, and she let it really get to her.

So in her mind (and I don't entirely disagree, whether or not everyone else does is their problem), there's still hostility towards her here. She's going to wait a while for it to blow over, and then she'll more than likely return. I've talked to her about it, and as much as she hates being disliked (and you can say she's appreciated, I know she is... but she's disliked in the same way I am.. outspoken, opinionated and often the unpopular opinion, so many don't like her too much), she does love a lot of people here, and she's as addicted to the forum as I am. She'll be back. *shrug*

Emily65Roses
12-07-2006, 08:30 PM
She knows how I feel, I talk to her every single day on AIM for hours at a time.

As for anyone who's wondering if she'll be back, etc. I believe she will. She's waiting for the open hostility towards her to vanish before she returns. And you can all say you supported her etc, but some of the comments made were less than supportive. I'm not trying to say anything against anyone (so don't jump up my @ss), because YES she did let them get to her. You all know how I am, and you had to know I told her to tell anyone that hurt her to shove it. But she's more sensitive than I am, and she let it really get to her.

So in her mind (and I don't entirely disagree, whether or not everyone else does is their problem), there's still hostility towards her here. She's going to wait a while for it to blow over, and then she'll more than likely return. I've talked to her about it, and as much as she hates being disliked (and you can say she's appreciated, I know she is... but she's disliked in the same way I am.. outspoken, opinionated and often the unpopular opinion, so many don't like her too much), she does love a lot of people here, and she's as addicted to the forum as I am. She'll be back. *shrug*

Emily65Roses
12-07-2006, 08:30 PM
She knows how I feel, I talk to her every single day on AIM for hours at a time.

As for anyone who's wondering if she'll be back, etc. I believe she will. She's waiting for the open hostility towards her to vanish before she returns. And you can all say you supported her etc, but some of the comments made were less than supportive. I'm not trying to say anything against anyone (so don't jump up my @ss), because YES she did let them get to her. You all know how I am, and you had to know I told her to tell anyone that hurt her to shove it. But she's more sensitive than I am, and she let it really get to her.

So in her mind (and I don't entirely disagree, whether or not everyone else does is their problem), there's still hostility towards her here. She's going to wait a while for it to blow over, and then she'll more than likely return. I've talked to her about it, and as much as she hates being disliked (and you can say she's appreciated, I know she is... but she's disliked in the same way I am.. outspoken, opinionated and often the unpopular opinion, so many don't like her too much), she does love a lot of people here, and she's as addicted to the forum as I am. She'll be back. *shrug*

Scarlett81
12-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Well it is very nice to hear she will be back. I don't know if she's been reading any of these threads, but if she hasn't, she should know about the 'goodbye allie' thread from a few days ago that showed how many people were upset about her going and asked her to stay. I feel bad that she feels hostility here-but I think whatever ones that have expressed hostility are outweighed by all the ones that have tried to reach out to her and show support in the last few days. I hope she gets to read that thread.
There will always be someone on this site that dislikes you for whatever reason. But if we all ran away b/c of something someone said, there would be no cysticfibrosis.com.

Scarlett81
12-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Well it is very nice to hear she will be back. I don't know if she's been reading any of these threads, but if she hasn't, she should know about the 'goodbye allie' thread from a few days ago that showed how many people were upset about her going and asked her to stay. I feel bad that she feels hostility here-but I think whatever ones that have expressed hostility are outweighed by all the ones that have tried to reach out to her and show support in the last few days. I hope she gets to read that thread.
There will always be someone on this site that dislikes you for whatever reason. But if we all ran away b/c of something someone said, there would be no cysticfibrosis.com.

Scarlett81
12-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Well it is very nice to hear she will be back. I don't know if she's been reading any of these threads, but if she hasn't, she should know about the 'goodbye allie' thread from a few days ago that showed how many people were upset about her going and asked her to stay. I feel bad that she feels hostility here-but I think whatever ones that have expressed hostility are outweighed by all the ones that have tried to reach out to her and show support in the last few days. I hope she gets to read that thread.
There will always be someone on this site that dislikes you for whatever reason. But if we all ran away b/c of something someone said, there would be no cysticfibrosis.com.

JennifersHope
12-07-2006, 09:43 PM
THis is me sharing my heart and my feelings.... which as a member of the forums.. I am able to do.....and I feel like as long as I am respectful it is fine...though I usually run away from drama for some reason this is disturbing me..

If anything is making me hostile it is all the drama... I always look forward to reading blogs and posts.. I am addicted to this website as much as anyone ..... but lately I get a knot in my stomach every time I turn on the site now.. and I am not leaving, or stopping to come on here... ( just like Allie is still reading posts etc...) Addiction ha....

As far as I am concerned Allie has always been given the same grace, if not more, then everyone else on here... She has been very supported from what I have seen in her blog and her posts.. etc..

If she see's someone not agreeing with her, as hostile, that is truly sad. She is always going to have people not agree with her, and it would be hypocritcal to say so if people didn't agree, like I tried to say in my response to her Everyone hates Ahava blog was... I don't agree with her, but so what who cares, the SUPPORT is unconditional....ALlie has said many things that I have not been able to swallow.. but I don't lash out at her.. I don't PM people privately and stir up drama by telling people I was pushed away.. and not to listen to anything because it isn't true..I can't stand fighting and disagreements...

If I posted I was leaving or that No one liked me everytime I didn't agree with a post, it would be insane....

I am sorry for all the pain Allie is in and her lack of ability to be able to handle it...WE ALL HAVE SUFFERED A GREAT DEAL IN OUR LIFE..

I know she will be back, I know she is reading this, and she will speak for heself and not have Emily.. ( who I adore) speak for her, even if she didn't ask her to. She will continue to provide valuable information to so many people, and lend an ear when someone is miserable... I myself have comiserated with ALlie several times and found it very helpful....

Now, if I was to sit on Santa clause's lap, or make a wish, or say a prayer it would be that all this horrible drama would end.... That ALlie would see just because someone doesn't agree with her doesn't mean she isn't loved or supported.. or that her child is a twit or what ever else she thinks people said....

This is a holiday season, some our celebrating in one way, some in another, but pretty much this is some sort of holiday for everyone... and I think the drama should end... and we all should go back to supporting and buliding each other up.. not tearing each other down, making sides and dividing each other..

Even if we are quiet, soft spoken, scared of conflict, or if we can securely tell someone to go drop dead and not think twice about it.. We are all human, we are all insecure, and we all have crazy emotions..

Hope the drama ends soon.

Jennifer

JennifersHope
12-07-2006, 09:43 PM
THis is me sharing my heart and my feelings.... which as a member of the forums.. I am able to do.....and I feel like as long as I am respectful it is fine...though I usually run away from drama for some reason this is disturbing me..

If anything is making me hostile it is all the drama... I always look forward to reading blogs and posts.. I am addicted to this website as much as anyone ..... but lately I get a knot in my stomach every time I turn on the site now.. and I am not leaving, or stopping to come on here... ( just like Allie is still reading posts etc...) Addiction ha....

As far as I am concerned Allie has always been given the same grace, if not more, then everyone else on here... She has been very supported from what I have seen in her blog and her posts.. etc..

If she see's someone not agreeing with her, as hostile, that is truly sad. She is always going to have people not agree with her, and it would be hypocritcal to say so if people didn't agree, like I tried to say in my response to her Everyone hates Ahava blog was... I don't agree with her, but so what who cares, the SUPPORT is unconditional....ALlie has said many things that I have not been able to swallow.. but I don't lash out at her.. I don't PM people privately and stir up drama by telling people I was pushed away.. and not to listen to anything because it isn't true..I can't stand fighting and disagreements...

If I posted I was leaving or that No one liked me everytime I didn't agree with a post, it would be insane....

I am sorry for all the pain Allie is in and her lack of ability to be able to handle it...WE ALL HAVE SUFFERED A GREAT DEAL IN OUR LIFE..

I know she will be back, I know she is reading this, and she will speak for heself and not have Emily.. ( who I adore) speak for her, even if she didn't ask her to. She will continue to provide valuable information to so many people, and lend an ear when someone is miserable... I myself have comiserated with ALlie several times and found it very helpful....

Now, if I was to sit on Santa clause's lap, or make a wish, or say a prayer it would be that all this horrible drama would end.... That ALlie would see just because someone doesn't agree with her doesn't mean she isn't loved or supported.. or that her child is a twit or what ever else she thinks people said....

This is a holiday season, some our celebrating in one way, some in another, but pretty much this is some sort of holiday for everyone... and I think the drama should end... and we all should go back to supporting and buliding each other up.. not tearing each other down, making sides and dividing each other..

Even if we are quiet, soft spoken, scared of conflict, or if we can securely tell someone to go drop dead and not think twice about it.. We are all human, we are all insecure, and we all have crazy emotions..

Hope the drama ends soon.

Jennifer

JennifersHope
12-07-2006, 09:43 PM
THis is me sharing my heart and my feelings.... which as a member of the forums.. I am able to do.....and I feel like as long as I am respectful it is fine...though I usually run away from drama for some reason this is disturbing me..

If anything is making me hostile it is all the drama... I always look forward to reading blogs and posts.. I am addicted to this website as much as anyone ..... but lately I get a knot in my stomach every time I turn on the site now.. and I am not leaving, or stopping to come on here... ( just like Allie is still reading posts etc...) Addiction ha....

As far as I am concerned Allie has always been given the same grace, if not more, then everyone else on here... She has been very supported from what I have seen in her blog and her posts.. etc..

If she see's someone not agreeing with her, as hostile, that is truly sad. She is always going to have people not agree with her, and it would be hypocritcal to say so if people didn't agree, like I tried to say in my response to her Everyone hates Ahava blog was... I don't agree with her, but so what who cares, the SUPPORT is unconditional....ALlie has said many things that I have not been able to swallow.. but I don't lash out at her.. I don't PM people privately and stir up drama by telling people I was pushed away.. and not to listen to anything because it isn't true..I can't stand fighting and disagreements...

If I posted I was leaving or that No one liked me everytime I didn't agree with a post, it would be insane....

I am sorry for all the pain Allie is in and her lack of ability to be able to handle it...WE ALL HAVE SUFFERED A GREAT DEAL IN OUR LIFE..

I know she will be back, I know she is reading this, and she will speak for heself and not have Emily.. ( who I adore) speak for her, even if she didn't ask her to. She will continue to provide valuable information to so many people, and lend an ear when someone is miserable... I myself have comiserated with ALlie several times and found it very helpful....

Now, if I was to sit on Santa clause's lap, or make a wish, or say a prayer it would be that all this horrible drama would end.... That ALlie would see just because someone doesn't agree with her doesn't mean she isn't loved or supported.. or that her child is a twit or what ever else she thinks people said....

This is a holiday season, some our celebrating in one way, some in another, but pretty much this is some sort of holiday for everyone... and I think the drama should end... and we all should go back to supporting and buliding each other up.. not tearing each other down, making sides and dividing each other..

Even if we are quiet, soft spoken, scared of conflict, or if we can securely tell someone to go drop dead and not think twice about it.. We are all human, we are all insecure, and we all have crazy emotions..

Hope the drama ends soon.

Jennifer

Allie
12-07-2006, 10:58 PM
Thanks JJ...this was emailed to me today by Emily, and it did the trick. Love and blessings for you guys.

Allie
12-07-2006, 10:58 PM
Thanks JJ...this was emailed to me today by Emily, and it did the trick. Love and blessings for you guys.

Allie
12-07-2006, 10:58 PM
Thanks JJ...this was emailed to me today by Emily, and it did the trick. Love and blessings for you guys.

Chaggie
12-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Thrilled to see you back Allie.

Chaggie
12-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Thrilled to see you back Allie.

Chaggie
12-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Thrilled to see you back Allie.