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my65roses4me
09-24-2006, 08:44 PM
<span style=" font-size: x-small;">My husband and I were discussing
the jewish new year the other day. We are not Jewish but are
interesting in knowing about Jews. Allie if you read this you and I
have had light discussion about the Jewish religion. Some believe
that being Jewish is a race (from Jerusalem) and some say, no its
only a religion. Can someone please explain what the difference is.
If you are Jewish are you saying you practice Judaism or are you
saying that you are from Israel? Thanks

my65roses4me
09-24-2006, 08:44 PM
<span style=" font-size: x-small;">My husband and I were discussing
the jewish new year the other day. We are not Jewish but are
interesting in knowing about Jews. Allie if you read this you and I
have had light discussion about the Jewish religion. Some believe
that being Jewish is a race (from Jerusalem) and some say, no its
only a religion. Can someone please explain what the difference is.
If you are Jewish are you saying you practice Judaism or are you
saying that you are from Israel? Thanks

my65roses4me
09-24-2006, 08:44 PM
<span style=" font-size: x-small;">My husband and I were discussing
the jewish new year the other day. We are not Jewish but are
interesting in knowing about Jews. Allie if you read this you and I
have had light discussion about the Jewish religion. Some believe
that being Jewish is a race (from Jerusalem) and some say, no its
only a religion. Can someone please explain what the difference is.
If you are Jewish are you saying you practice Judaism or are you
saying that you are from Israel? Thanks

Allie
09-27-2006, 03:23 AM
Religion, there's some amount of culture involved, but any race can be Jewish, it is not a race in and of tiself...someone from Israel is an Israeli.

Allie
09-27-2006, 03:23 AM
Religion, there's some amount of culture involved, but any race can be Jewish, it is not a race in and of tiself...someone from Israel is an Israeli.

Allie
09-27-2006, 03:23 AM
Religion, there's some amount of culture involved, but any race can be Jewish, it is not a race in and of tiself...someone from Israel is an Israeli.

my65roses4me
09-27-2006, 06:45 AM
Ok another stupid question for you Allie.<br>
So when Hitler persecuted the "Jews" It was people of the
religion and not just anyone from Israel? Or did he choose people
from Israel too that did not practice the religion? Or does
everyone in Israel mainly practice Judaism? I am so wanting to
understand this. Do people ever say they are Jewish but only mean
they are from Israel?<br>
<br>
And another question. What are the hats (caps) that some jewish men
wear mean? I am very ignorant when it comes to details of any
religion and am trying to understand. I am hard headed as you know
so you will probably have to pound this into my head....LOL. Thanks
for your patience! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

my65roses4me
09-27-2006, 06:45 AM
Ok another stupid question for you Allie.<br>
So when Hitler persecuted the "Jews" It was people of the
religion and not just anyone from Israel? Or did he choose people
from Israel too that did not practice the religion? Or does
everyone in Israel mainly practice Judaism? I am so wanting to
understand this. Do people ever say they are Jewish but only mean
they are from Israel?<br>
<br>
And another question. What are the hats (caps) that some jewish men
wear mean? I am very ignorant when it comes to details of any
religion and am trying to understand. I am hard headed as you know
so you will probably have to pound this into my head....LOL. Thanks
for your patience! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

my65roses4me
09-27-2006, 06:45 AM
Ok another stupid question for you Allie.<br>
So when Hitler persecuted the "Jews" It was people of the
religion and not just anyone from Israel? Or did he choose people
from Israel too that did not practice the religion? Or does
everyone in Israel mainly practice Judaism? I am so wanting to
understand this. Do people ever say they are Jewish but only mean
they are from Israel?<br>
<br>
And another question. What are the hats (caps) that some jewish men
wear mean? I am very ignorant when it comes to details of any
religion and am trying to understand. I am hard headed as you know
so you will probably have to pound this into my head....LOL. Thanks
for your patience! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

Allie
09-27-2006, 07:32 PM
Israel didn't exist before WW2. Hitler presecuted anyone of Jewish heritage...if thier mother was Jewish, thier father, anything. Some people say they are Jewish, but mean of Jewish heritage. You can't be Jewish and another religion. And yes, almost everyone in Israel is Jewish.

It's called a kippah, or in Yiddish a yarmulke. It's a sign of respect, and that God is above us at all times. Most non Orthodox men only wear them to synagouge or temple.

Allie
09-27-2006, 07:32 PM
Israel didn't exist before WW2. Hitler presecuted anyone of Jewish heritage...if thier mother was Jewish, thier father, anything. Some people say they are Jewish, but mean of Jewish heritage. You can't be Jewish and another religion. And yes, almost everyone in Israel is Jewish.

It's called a kippah, or in Yiddish a yarmulke. It's a sign of respect, and that God is above us at all times. Most non Orthodox men only wear them to synagouge or temple.

Allie
09-27-2006, 07:32 PM
Israel didn't exist before WW2. Hitler presecuted anyone of Jewish heritage...if thier mother was Jewish, thier father, anything. Some people say they are Jewish, but mean of Jewish heritage. You can't be Jewish and another religion. And yes, almost everyone in Israel is Jewish.

It's called a kippah, or in Yiddish a yarmulke. It's a sign of respect, and that God is above us at all times. Most non Orthodox men only wear them to synagouge or temple.

anonymous
10-01-2006, 10:59 AM
Having been to Israel I have to respectfully disagree with Allie on two points.

There are a fair number of people in Israel who are not Jewish. There are the Beduin(sp?), Arabs (both Christian and Muslim), Jews (from several different races including the group from Ethiophia (sp?) who are not accepted as Jews by some factions but were airlifted to Israel during that time of terrible famine. There is also a population of Christians who are not Arab.

So yes Jews are the largest single population in Israel but put the other populations together and they make a pretty large chunk.

As being Jewish is both a culture and a religion in some ways, it is possible to be one without the other. I have friends who consider themselves Jewish by culture but not religion. And I have a close friend who's mother was born Catholic and converted in before she was born. By Jewish religious law if your mother is Jewish you are Jewish, by the reformed version of Jewish law if either parent is, you are Jewish.

As for Israel's existance: existed a long long long time ago, our distant ancestors divided one kingdom into two and half of it fell then the other half did. The Rmans scattered us from that ancestral home and we lived it what is known as the diaspora (meaning scattered all over) until after WWII when Israel was reestablished (and IMO all but set up for instant defeat but that is another story).

We aren't a perfect people but for the most part our's is a religion and culture fo acceptance and love. At sundown today begins our "Day of Attonement" aka Yom Kipor and the end of our holy week/new year process which began on Rosh Hashanah. May this day bring peace and forgiveness to all on earth and in heaven. Amen.

S.F.A.

anonymous
10-01-2006, 10:59 AM
Having been to Israel I have to respectfully disagree with Allie on two points.

There are a fair number of people in Israel who are not Jewish. There are the Beduin(sp?), Arabs (both Christian and Muslim), Jews (from several different races including the group from Ethiophia (sp?) who are not accepted as Jews by some factions but were airlifted to Israel during that time of terrible famine. There is also a population of Christians who are not Arab.

So yes Jews are the largest single population in Israel but put the other populations together and they make a pretty large chunk.

As being Jewish is both a culture and a religion in some ways, it is possible to be one without the other. I have friends who consider themselves Jewish by culture but not religion. And I have a close friend who's mother was born Catholic and converted in before she was born. By Jewish religious law if your mother is Jewish you are Jewish, by the reformed version of Jewish law if either parent is, you are Jewish.

As for Israel's existance: existed a long long long time ago, our distant ancestors divided one kingdom into two and half of it fell then the other half did. The Rmans scattered us from that ancestral home and we lived it what is known as the diaspora (meaning scattered all over) until after WWII when Israel was reestablished (and IMO all but set up for instant defeat but that is another story).

We aren't a perfect people but for the most part our's is a religion and culture fo acceptance and love. At sundown today begins our "Day of Attonement" aka Yom Kipor and the end of our holy week/new year process which began on Rosh Hashanah. May this day bring peace and forgiveness to all on earth and in heaven. Amen.

S.F.A.

anonymous
10-01-2006, 10:59 AM
Having been to Israel I have to respectfully disagree with Allie on two points.

There are a fair number of people in Israel who are not Jewish. There are the Beduin(sp?), Arabs (both Christian and Muslim), Jews (from several different races including the group from Ethiophia (sp?) who are not accepted as Jews by some factions but were airlifted to Israel during that time of terrible famine. There is also a population of Christians who are not Arab.

So yes Jews are the largest single population in Israel but put the other populations together and they make a pretty large chunk.

As being Jewish is both a culture and a religion in some ways, it is possible to be one without the other. I have friends who consider themselves Jewish by culture but not religion. And I have a close friend who's mother was born Catholic and converted in before she was born. By Jewish religious law if your mother is Jewish you are Jewish, by the reformed version of Jewish law if either parent is, you are Jewish.

As for Israel's existance: existed a long long long time ago, our distant ancestors divided one kingdom into two and half of it fell then the other half did. The Rmans scattered us from that ancestral home and we lived it what is known as the diaspora (meaning scattered all over) until after WWII when Israel was reestablished (and IMO all but set up for instant defeat but that is another story).

We aren't a perfect people but for the most part our's is a religion and culture fo acceptance and love. At sundown today begins our "Day of Attonement" aka Yom Kipor and the end of our holy week/new year process which began on Rosh Hashanah. May this day bring peace and forgiveness to all on earth and in heaven. Amen.

S.F.A.

Allie
10-02-2006, 05:13 PM
TO be fair Araba Israelis (which include all Arab non Jews) only consist of 19% of the population. Almost everyone was poor phrasing, but 'a vast majority' would be correct.

There are SOME people who consider themselves Jewish without the religion, I am just part of the movement that finds them incorrect. You can't be Jewish and Catholic. That's a pair of opposing beliefs. You can be of Jewish HERITAGE, and Catholic. The laws only apply if you are trying actively to be Jewish. I'm sure if you walk into a Synagouge and ask "well my mother was Jewish, but I practice Catholicism...am I Jewish?" they'll say no. I'm among those people, I just don't think you can call yourself a true Jew and believe something else.

Yes, Israel exsisted in ancient times, I was just trying to clarify for Khristina that Israel didn't exist during ww2

To the spirit of debate!

Allie
10-02-2006, 05:13 PM
TO be fair Araba Israelis (which include all Arab non Jews) only consist of 19% of the population. Almost everyone was poor phrasing, but 'a vast majority' would be correct.

There are SOME people who consider themselves Jewish without the religion, I am just part of the movement that finds them incorrect. You can't be Jewish and Catholic. That's a pair of opposing beliefs. You can be of Jewish HERITAGE, and Catholic. The laws only apply if you are trying actively to be Jewish. I'm sure if you walk into a Synagouge and ask "well my mother was Jewish, but I practice Catholicism...am I Jewish?" they'll say no. I'm among those people, I just don't think you can call yourself a true Jew and believe something else.

Yes, Israel exsisted in ancient times, I was just trying to clarify for Khristina that Israel didn't exist during ww2

To the spirit of debate!

Allie
10-02-2006, 05:13 PM
TO be fair Araba Israelis (which include all Arab non Jews) only consist of 19% of the population. Almost everyone was poor phrasing, but 'a vast majority' would be correct.

There are SOME people who consider themselves Jewish without the religion, I am just part of the movement that finds them incorrect. You can't be Jewish and Catholic. That's a pair of opposing beliefs. You can be of Jewish HERITAGE, and Catholic. The laws only apply if you are trying actively to be Jewish. I'm sure if you walk into a Synagouge and ask "well my mother was Jewish, but I practice Catholicism...am I Jewish?" they'll say no. I'm among those people, I just don't think you can call yourself a true Jew and believe something else.

Yes, Israel exsisted in ancient times, I was just trying to clarify for Khristina that Israel didn't exist during ww2

To the spirit of debate!

flyfree
10-26-2006, 05:04 AM
Being from Israel has nothing to do with you being Jewish. If you
were born in Valencia, Italy are you automatically Catholic? If you
were Born in Tokyo, Japan are you automatically a Shinto? No. Where
your from has nothing to do with your religion. I am Jewish but
born and raised in America. My family is entirely from Europe and
my ancestry doesn't trace back to Israel since the diaspora. I've
been to Israel and although the National religion is Judaism it is
also the home of Christianity and Islam. &nbsp;

flyfree
10-26-2006, 05:04 AM
Being from Israel has nothing to do with you being Jewish. If you
were born in Valencia, Italy are you automatically Catholic? If you
were Born in Tokyo, Japan are you automatically a Shinto? No. Where
your from has nothing to do with your religion. I am Jewish but
born and raised in America. My family is entirely from Europe and
my ancestry doesn't trace back to Israel since the diaspora. I've
been to Israel and although the National religion is Judaism it is
also the home of Christianity and Islam. &nbsp;

flyfree
10-26-2006, 05:04 AM
Being from Israel has nothing to do with you being Jewish. If you
were born in Valencia, Italy are you automatically Catholic? If you
were Born in Tokyo, Japan are you automatically a Shinto? No. Where
your from has nothing to do with your religion. I am Jewish but
born and raised in America. My family is entirely from Europe and
my ancestry doesn't trace back to Israel since the diaspora. I've
been to Israel and although the National religion is Judaism it is
also the home of Christianity and Islam. &nbsp;

NoExcuses
03-31-2007, 08:08 PM
There are 3 races: Mongaloid, Cacasoid and Negroid.

Just three. That's it.

The term race is often misused by those who aren't quite clear on what race means.

Those native to East Asian are Mongaloid. Those native to the continent of Africa are Negroid. All the rest: those native to North & South America, the European penninsula, Middle East are all Caucasoid.

NoExcuses
03-31-2007, 08:08 PM
There are 3 races: Mongaloid, Cacasoid and Negroid.

Just three. That's it.

The term race is often misused by those who aren't quite clear on what race means.

Those native to East Asian are Mongaloid. Those native to the continent of Africa are Negroid. All the rest: those native to North & South America, the European penninsula, Middle East are all Caucasoid.

NoExcuses
03-31-2007, 08:08 PM
There are 3 races: Mongaloid, Cacasoid and Negroid.

Just three. That's it.

The term race is often misused by those who aren't quite clear on what race means.

Those native to East Asian are Mongaloid. Those native to the continent of Africa are Negroid. All the rest: those native to North & South America, the European penninsula, Middle East are all Caucasoid.