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Imogene
08-14-2009, 11:04 AM
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?th&emc=th">10 Steps to Better Health Care a link to the NYTIMES</a>

I hope this link to an article in the NYTimes works!

One of the authors is Atul Gawande...who studied the CF community back in 2004 writing about the different centers and what may cause them to have different results.

The CF article called <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/12/06/041206fa_fact">The Bell Curve</a> was originally published in the New Yorker magazine but now is also a chapter in his book: <u>Better</u>

I'm always interested in his perspective.

Jeanne

Imogene
08-14-2009, 11:04 AM
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?th&emc=th">10 Steps to Better Health Care a link to the NYTIMES</a>

I hope this link to an article in the NYTimes works!

One of the authors is Atul Gawande...who studied the CF community back in 2004 writing about the different centers and what may cause them to have different results.

The CF article called <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/12/06/041206fa_fact">The Bell Curve</a> was originally published in the New Yorker magazine but now is also a chapter in his book: <u>Better</u>

I'm always interested in his perspective.

Jeanne

Imogene
08-14-2009, 11:04 AM
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?th&emc=th">10 Steps to Better Health Care a link to the NYTIMES</a>

I hope this link to an article in the NYTimes works!

One of the authors is Atul Gawande...who studied the CF community back in 2004 writing about the different centers and what may cause them to have different results.

The CF article called <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/12/06/041206fa_fact">The Bell Curve</a> was originally published in the New Yorker magazine but now is also a chapter in his book: <u>Better</u>

I'm always interested in his perspective.

Jeanne

Imogene
08-14-2009, 11:04 AM
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?th&emc=th">10 Steps to Better Health Care a link to the NYTIMES</a>

I hope this link to an article in the NYTimes works!

One of the authors is Atul Gawande...who studied the CF community back in 2004 writing about the different centers and what may cause them to have different results.

The CF article called <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/12/06/041206fa_fact">The Bell Curve</a> was originally published in the New Yorker magazine but now is also a chapter in his book: <u>Better</u>

I'm always interested in his perspective.

Jeanne

Imogene
08-14-2009, 11:04 AM
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?th&emc=th">10 Steps to Better Health Care a link to the NYTIMES</a>
<br />
<br />I hope this link to an article in the NYTimes works!
<br />
<br />One of the authors is Atul Gawande...who studied the CF community back in 2004 writing about the different centers and what may cause them to have different results.
<br />
<br />The CF article called <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/12/06/041206fa_fact">The Bell Curve</a> was originally published in the New Yorker magazine but now is also a chapter in his book: <u>Better</u>
<br />
<br />I'm always interested in his perspective.
<br />
<br />Jeanne

kayleesgrandma
08-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Interesting article, but, while I have no doubt as to the qualifications of Dr Gawandi--I have some reservations about how he came to his conclusions in this article I don't think he covered all the possible reasons or contributing factors that might hae skewed the outcome he postualated. Here are some opposing viewpoints...

Atul Gawande: A Framework for a Better Health-Care System: News Desk: Online Only: The New Yorker

In "Getting There From Here," an article for the January 26th issue of The New Yorker, Atul Gawande described how President Obama could build on our current health-care system to ensure that everyone could get coverage. This morning, Gawande testified before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health. Gawande's testimony draws on his observation that "our health system is failing - on cost, coverage, safety, and value - because the complexity of health care itself has exceeded our abilities as individual clinicians."

<b>Anybody who starts out an analysis by asking me to believe that "our health care system is failing," automatically builds a very high bar as to the believability of his entire thesis.</b>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
">http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
Forcing Prices Down Does Not Normally Increase Supply
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/06/forcing-prices-down-does-not-normally-increase-supply.html
">http://justoneminute.typepad.c...-increase-supply.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Critique of The New Yorker's Health Care Plan
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thehealthcarevalueblog.com/2009/06/16/a-critique-of-the-new-yorkers-health-care-plan/
">http://thehealthcarevalueblog....ers-health-care-plan/
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Dangerous Health Care Misunderstanding
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2009/06/a-dangerous-health-care-misunderstanding.html
">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com...misunderstanding.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------Competition would save medicine, too
By John Stossel
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
">http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
No Surprise: More Spending Doesn't Mean Better Care
by Sabrina L. Schaeffer
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://whkradio.townhall.com/columnists/SabrinaLSchaeffer/2009/07/22/no_surprise_more_spending_doesnt_mean_better_care">http://whkradio.townhall.com/c...oesnt_mean_better_care</a>

kayleesgrandma
08-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Interesting article, but, while I have no doubt as to the qualifications of Dr Gawandi--I have some reservations about how he came to his conclusions in this article I don't think he covered all the possible reasons or contributing factors that might hae skewed the outcome he postualated. Here are some opposing viewpoints...

Atul Gawande: A Framework for a Better Health-Care System: News Desk: Online Only: The New Yorker

In "Getting There From Here," an article for the January 26th issue of The New Yorker, Atul Gawande described how President Obama could build on our current health-care system to ensure that everyone could get coverage. This morning, Gawande testified before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health. Gawande's testimony draws on his observation that "our health system is failing - on cost, coverage, safety, and value - because the complexity of health care itself has exceeded our abilities as individual clinicians."

<b>Anybody who starts out an analysis by asking me to believe that "our health care system is failing," automatically builds a very high bar as to the believability of his entire thesis.</b>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
">http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
Forcing Prices Down Does Not Normally Increase Supply
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/06/forcing-prices-down-does-not-normally-increase-supply.html
">http://justoneminute.typepad.c...-increase-supply.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Critique of The New Yorker's Health Care Plan
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thehealthcarevalueblog.com/2009/06/16/a-critique-of-the-new-yorkers-health-care-plan/
">http://thehealthcarevalueblog....ers-health-care-plan/
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Dangerous Health Care Misunderstanding
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2009/06/a-dangerous-health-care-misunderstanding.html
">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com...misunderstanding.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------Competition would save medicine, too
By John Stossel
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
">http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
No Surprise: More Spending Doesn't Mean Better Care
by Sabrina L. Schaeffer
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://whkradio.townhall.com/columnists/SabrinaLSchaeffer/2009/07/22/no_surprise_more_spending_doesnt_mean_better_care">http://whkradio.townhall.com/c...oesnt_mean_better_care</a>

kayleesgrandma
08-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Interesting article, but, while I have no doubt as to the qualifications of Dr Gawandi--I have some reservations about how he came to his conclusions in this article I don't think he covered all the possible reasons or contributing factors that might hae skewed the outcome he postualated. Here are some opposing viewpoints...

Atul Gawande: A Framework for a Better Health-Care System: News Desk: Online Only: The New Yorker

In "Getting There From Here," an article for the January 26th issue of The New Yorker, Atul Gawande described how President Obama could build on our current health-care system to ensure that everyone could get coverage. This morning, Gawande testified before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health. Gawande's testimony draws on his observation that "our health system is failing - on cost, coverage, safety, and value - because the complexity of health care itself has exceeded our abilities as individual clinicians."

<b>Anybody who starts out an analysis by asking me to believe that "our health care system is failing," automatically builds a very high bar as to the believability of his entire thesis.</b>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
">http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
Forcing Prices Down Does Not Normally Increase Supply
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/06/forcing-prices-down-does-not-normally-increase-supply.html
">http://justoneminute.typepad.c...-increase-supply.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Critique of The New Yorker's Health Care Plan
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thehealthcarevalueblog.com/2009/06/16/a-critique-of-the-new-yorkers-health-care-plan/
">http://thehealthcarevalueblog....ers-health-care-plan/
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Dangerous Health Care Misunderstanding
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2009/06/a-dangerous-health-care-misunderstanding.html
">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com...misunderstanding.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------Competition would save medicine, too
By John Stossel
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
">http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
No Surprise: More Spending Doesn't Mean Better Care
by Sabrina L. Schaeffer
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://whkradio.townhall.com/columnists/SabrinaLSchaeffer/2009/07/22/no_surprise_more_spending_doesnt_mean_better_care">http://whkradio.townhall.com/c...oesnt_mean_better_care</a>

kayleesgrandma
08-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Interesting article, but, while I have no doubt as to the qualifications of Dr Gawandi--I have some reservations about how he came to his conclusions in this article I don't think he covered all the possible reasons or contributing factors that might hae skewed the outcome he postualated. Here are some opposing viewpoints...

Atul Gawande: A Framework for a Better Health-Care System: News Desk: Online Only: The New Yorker

In "Getting There From Here," an article for the January 26th issue of The New Yorker, Atul Gawande described how President Obama could build on our current health-care system to ensure that everyone could get coverage. This morning, Gawande testified before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health. Gawande's testimony draws on his observation that "our health system is failing - on cost, coverage, safety, and value - because the complexity of health care itself has exceeded our abilities as individual clinicians."

<b>Anybody who starts out an analysis by asking me to believe that "our health care system is failing," automatically builds a very high bar as to the believability of his entire thesis.</b>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
">http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
Forcing Prices Down Does Not Normally Increase Supply
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/06/forcing-prices-down-does-not-normally-increase-supply.html
">http://justoneminute.typepad.c...-increase-supply.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Critique of The New Yorker's Health Care Plan
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thehealthcarevalueblog.com/2009/06/16/a-critique-of-the-new-yorkers-health-care-plan/
">http://thehealthcarevalueblog....ers-health-care-plan/
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
A Dangerous Health Care Misunderstanding
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2009/06/a-dangerous-health-care-misunderstanding.html
">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com...misunderstanding.html
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------Competition would save medicine, too
By John Stossel
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
">http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
</a>---------------------------------------------------------------
No Surprise: More Spending Doesn't Mean Better Care
by Sabrina L. Schaeffer
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://whkradio.townhall.com/columnists/SabrinaLSchaeffer/2009/07/22/no_surprise_more_spending_doesnt_mean_better_care">http://whkradio.townhall.com/c...oesnt_mean_better_care</a>

kayleesgrandma
08-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Interesting article, but, while I have no doubt as to the qualifications of Dr Gawandi--I have some reservations about how he came to his conclusions in this article I don't think he covered all the possible reasons or contributing factors that might hae skewed the outcome he postualated. Here are some opposing viewpoints...
<br />
<br />Atul Gawande: A Framework for a Better Health-Care System: News Desk: Online Only: The New Yorker
<br />
<br />In "Getting There From Here," an article for the January 26th issue of The New Yorker, Atul Gawande described how President Obama could build on our current health-care system to ensure that everyone could get coverage. This morning, Gawande testified before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health. Gawande's testimony draws on his observation that "our health system is failing - on cost, coverage, safety, and value - because the complexity of health care itself has exceeded our abilities as individual clinicians."
<br />
<br /><b>Anybody who starts out an analysis by asking me to believe that "our health care system is failing," automatically builds a very high bar as to the believability of his entire thesis.</b>
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
">http://dailypundit.com/?p=34123
</a><br />---------------------------------------------------------------
<br />Forcing Prices Down Does Not Normally Increase Supply
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/06/forcing-prices-down-does-not-normally-increase-supply.html
">http://justoneminute.typepad.c...-increase-supply.html
</a><br />---------------------------------------------------------------
<br />A Critique of The New Yorker's Health Care Plan
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thehealthcarevalueblog.com/2009/06/16/a-critique-of-the-new-yorkers-health-care-plan/
">http://thehealthcarevalueblog....ers-health-care-plan/
</a><br />---------------------------------------------------------------
<br />A Dangerous Health Care Misunderstanding
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2009/06/a-dangerous-health-care-misunderstanding.html
">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com...misunderstanding.html
</a><br />---------------------------------------------------------------Competition would save medicine, too
<br />By John Stossel
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
">http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/stossel061009.php3
</a><br />---------------------------------------------------------------
<br />No Surprise: More Spending Doesn't Mean Better Care
<br />by Sabrina L. Schaeffer
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://whkradio.townhall.com/columnists/SabrinaLSchaeffer/2009/07/22/no_surprise_more_spending_doesnt_mean_better_care">http://whkradio.townhall.com/c...oesnt_mean_better_care</a>