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mamaj
09-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Looking for anyone that has some STRONG opinions one way or the
other... and has research or evidence to support those
opinions.<br>
<br>
<br>
Before my 6month old son was diagnosed with CF, it was an easy
decision. &nbsp;I was going to wait until he was 2 years old to
vaccinate, and let his natural immune system develop. &nbsp;Even at
two, there are some vaccinations that I would have declined
(chicken pox for example). &nbsp;Now, with the diagnosis, I am
torn. &nbsp;With his less than perfect constitution, he could be at
even greater risk from the complications that could possibly arise
from the vaccinations, and on the other side of the coin, if he
were to actually contract one of the viruses... it could kill him.
&nbsp;So, of course, I am leaning towards vaccinating now, but
would like any input from anyone that feels their personal
experience might help me feel better about my decision either
way.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your time.<br>
<br>
Jana

mamaj
09-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Looking for anyone that has some STRONG opinions one way or the
other... and has research or evidence to support those
opinions.<br>
<br>
<br>
Before my 6month old son was diagnosed with CF, it was an easy
decision. &nbsp;I was going to wait until he was 2 years old to
vaccinate, and let his natural immune system develop. &nbsp;Even at
two, there are some vaccinations that I would have declined
(chicken pox for example). &nbsp;Now, with the diagnosis, I am
torn. &nbsp;With his less than perfect constitution, he could be at
even greater risk from the complications that could possibly arise
from the vaccinations, and on the other side of the coin, if he
were to actually contract one of the viruses... it could kill him.
&nbsp;So, of course, I am leaning towards vaccinating now, but
would like any input from anyone that feels their personal
experience might help me feel better about my decision either
way.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your time.<br>
<br>
Jana

mamaj
09-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Looking for anyone that has some STRONG opinions one way or the
other... and has research or evidence to support those
opinions.<br>
<br>
<br>
Before my 6month old son was diagnosed with CF, it was an easy
decision. &nbsp;I was going to wait until he was 2 years old to
vaccinate, and let his natural immune system develop. &nbsp;Even at
two, there are some vaccinations that I would have declined
(chicken pox for example). &nbsp;Now, with the diagnosis, I am
torn. &nbsp;With his less than perfect constitution, he could be at
even greater risk from the complications that could possibly arise
from the vaccinations, and on the other side of the coin, if he
were to actually contract one of the viruses... it could kill him.
&nbsp;So, of course, I am leaning towards vaccinating now, but
would like any input from anyone that feels their personal
experience might help me feel better about my decision either
way.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your time.<br>
<br>
Jana

anonymous
09-28-2006, 12:10 AM
At the very least I would make sure he gets the flu shot. I have had the flu when I didn't get the shot and it took my lungs a year to get back to normal, and I still lost lung function. You are at a much higher risk to get the flu if you don't get the shot than if you do. Also, aren't there some shots you still have to get because of school?

Sue 24w/CF

anonymous
09-28-2006, 12:10 AM
At the very least I would make sure he gets the flu shot. I have had the flu when I didn't get the shot and it took my lungs a year to get back to normal, and I still lost lung function. You are at a much higher risk to get the flu if you don't get the shot than if you do. Also, aren't there some shots you still have to get because of school?

Sue 24w/CF

anonymous
09-28-2006, 12:10 AM
At the very least I would make sure he gets the flu shot. I have had the flu when I didn't get the shot and it took my lungs a year to get back to normal, and I still lost lung function. You are at a much higher risk to get the flu if you don't get the shot than if you do. Also, aren't there some shots you still have to get because of school?

Sue 24w/CF

anonymous
09-28-2006, 01:50 AM
This is a very touchy subject for some.........Hope you make the right decision for your family.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 01:50 AM
This is a very touchy subject for some.........Hope you make the right decision for your family.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 01:50 AM
This is a very touchy subject for some.........Hope you make the right decision for your family.

miesl
09-28-2006, 01:49 PM
You want strong opinions? You'll get them here, starting with me.

I think it's highly irresponsible and deeply stupid to not vaccinate children. It's not only a disservice to the child, but also to society in general. We're trying to eliminate some of these nasty diseases that used to wipe out huge numbers of the population - failure to vaccinate just perpetuates the cycle. Go figure that recently we've been having mumps and whooping cough reappear.

*rant rant rant* *steps off soapbox*

miesl
09-28-2006, 01:49 PM
You want strong opinions? You'll get them here, starting with me.

I think it's highly irresponsible and deeply stupid to not vaccinate children. It's not only a disservice to the child, but also to society in general. We're trying to eliminate some of these nasty diseases that used to wipe out huge numbers of the population - failure to vaccinate just perpetuates the cycle. Go figure that recently we've been having mumps and whooping cough reappear.

*rant rant rant* *steps off soapbox*

miesl
09-28-2006, 01:49 PM
You want strong opinions? You'll get them here, starting with me.

I think it's highly irresponsible and deeply stupid to not vaccinate children. It's not only a disservice to the child, but also to society in general. We're trying to eliminate some of these nasty diseases that used to wipe out huge numbers of the population - failure to vaccinate just perpetuates the cycle. Go figure that recently we've been having mumps and whooping cough reappear.

*rant rant rant* *steps off soapbox*

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Agree wholeheartedly with Miesl.

Also, please be aware that the risks associated with vaccinations are substantially less than risks associated with contracting the disease. Throw in a chronic health condition like CF - well I certainly would have as much protection for my children from comorbid disease as possible - and therefore vaccinations are a necessity in my opininon.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Agree wholeheartedly with Miesl.

Also, please be aware that the risks associated with vaccinations are substantially less than risks associated with contracting the disease. Throw in a chronic health condition like CF - well I certainly would have as much protection for my children from comorbid disease as possible - and therefore vaccinations are a necessity in my opininon.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Agree wholeheartedly with Miesl.

Also, please be aware that the risks associated with vaccinations are substantially less than risks associated with contracting the disease. Throw in a chronic health condition like CF - well I certainly would have as much protection for my children from comorbid disease as possible - and therefore vaccinations are a necessity in my opininon.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

Agree wholeheartedly with Miesl.



Also, please be aware that the risks associated with vaccinations are substantially less than risks associated with contracting the disease. Throw in a chronic health condition like CF - well I certainly would have as much protection for my children from comorbid disease as possible - and therefore vaccinations are a necessity in my opininon.</end quote></div>

That was me, BigBee - not logged in sorry...

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

Agree wholeheartedly with Miesl.



Also, please be aware that the risks associated with vaccinations are substantially less than risks associated with contracting the disease. Throw in a chronic health condition like CF - well I certainly would have as much protection for my children from comorbid disease as possible - and therefore vaccinations are a necessity in my opininon.</end quote></div>

That was me, BigBee - not logged in sorry...

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:37 PM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

Agree wholeheartedly with Miesl.



Also, please be aware that the risks associated with vaccinations are substantially less than risks associated with contracting the disease. Throw in a chronic health condition like CF - well I certainly would have as much protection for my children from comorbid disease as possible - and therefore vaccinations are a necessity in my opininon.</end quote></div>

That was me, BigBee - not logged in sorry...

Ratatosk
09-28-2006, 02:48 PM
I've never had a problem with vaccinating, although with all the stories about MMR and autism out there, I'll admit I was a tad nervous when it was time for DS's vaccine. But DH and I were both vaccinated for it when we were younger and didn't have any problems. Ditto with flu shots. We've always gotten them, so we've made sure DS has gotten his also.

When DS turned one, there was a major whooping cough outbreak in our state. Although he was vaccinated, I was worried sick. Especially when a child at his preschool came down with it and all the kids had to be put on prophylactic antibiotics.

Never thought much about the chicken pox vaccine. My siblings and I all had chickenpox and suffered no ill effects, but when DS's doctor explained how some of the chicken pox sores can get into the lungs and could cause damage. Made sure he was vaccinated for that also.

Took a trip to Mexico this past winter -- made sure DS had the Hep A series. Now it's apparently recommended for all children.

Again, we're pro-vaccination in our household. Always have been. L

Ratatosk
09-28-2006, 02:48 PM
I've never had a problem with vaccinating, although with all the stories about MMR and autism out there, I'll admit I was a tad nervous when it was time for DS's vaccine. But DH and I were both vaccinated for it when we were younger and didn't have any problems. Ditto with flu shots. We've always gotten them, so we've made sure DS has gotten his also.

When DS turned one, there was a major whooping cough outbreak in our state. Although he was vaccinated, I was worried sick. Especially when a child at his preschool came down with it and all the kids had to be put on prophylactic antibiotics.

Never thought much about the chicken pox vaccine. My siblings and I all had chickenpox and suffered no ill effects, but when DS's doctor explained how some of the chicken pox sores can get into the lungs and could cause damage. Made sure he was vaccinated for that also.

Took a trip to Mexico this past winter -- made sure DS had the Hep A series. Now it's apparently recommended for all children.

Again, we're pro-vaccination in our household. Always have been. L

Ratatosk
09-28-2006, 02:48 PM
I've never had a problem with vaccinating, although with all the stories about MMR and autism out there, I'll admit I was a tad nervous when it was time for DS's vaccine. But DH and I were both vaccinated for it when we were younger and didn't have any problems. Ditto with flu shots. We've always gotten them, so we've made sure DS has gotten his also.

When DS turned one, there was a major whooping cough outbreak in our state. Although he was vaccinated, I was worried sick. Especially when a child at his preschool came down with it and all the kids had to be put on prophylactic antibiotics.

Never thought much about the chicken pox vaccine. My siblings and I all had chickenpox and suffered no ill effects, but when DS's doctor explained how some of the chicken pox sores can get into the lungs and could cause damage. Made sure he was vaccinated for that also.

Took a trip to Mexico this past winter -- made sure DS had the Hep A series. Now it's apparently recommended for all children.

Again, we're pro-vaccination in our household. Always have been. L

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:52 PM
My personal opinion is absolutely vaccinate. Vaccines are one of the medical breakthoughs that have extended our longevity overall. Petussis(whooping cough), measles, mumps, rubella, polio...I can't imagine my daughter with CF getting one of these illnesses. Have you heard of someone dying from tetanus, lately? No, because of vaccines. I get my daughter the flu shot every year, she's had the chicken pox vaccine... I've heard of a new rotavirus vaccine coming out I plan to ask my ped about. With CF, Prevention is key. Vaccination is one way we can prevent just one more illness for our CF loved ones.

Recently, in our area, there was a whooping cough outbreak(pertussis). Some children are not being protected from whooping cough becasue of delayed vaccination and not being vaccinated at all. Adults whooping cough vaccination I guess does not last a lifetime so adults(even those that had been vaccianted immunity wears off ) and then can give pertussis(if they are infected) to non-vaccinated children.

Of course, there are side effects to ANYTHING you put in your body...risk vs. benefit. We'll take the vaccine.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy 8 no CF and MAggie 3 1/2 with CF)

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:52 PM
My personal opinion is absolutely vaccinate. Vaccines are one of the medical breakthoughs that have extended our longevity overall. Petussis(whooping cough), measles, mumps, rubella, polio...I can't imagine my daughter with CF getting one of these illnesses. Have you heard of someone dying from tetanus, lately? No, because of vaccines. I get my daughter the flu shot every year, she's had the chicken pox vaccine... I've heard of a new rotavirus vaccine coming out I plan to ask my ped about. With CF, Prevention is key. Vaccination is one way we can prevent just one more illness for our CF loved ones.

Recently, in our area, there was a whooping cough outbreak(pertussis). Some children are not being protected from whooping cough becasue of delayed vaccination and not being vaccinated at all. Adults whooping cough vaccination I guess does not last a lifetime so adults(even those that had been vaccianted immunity wears off ) and then can give pertussis(if they are infected) to non-vaccinated children.

Of course, there are side effects to ANYTHING you put in your body...risk vs. benefit. We'll take the vaccine.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy 8 no CF and MAggie 3 1/2 with CF)

anonymous
09-28-2006, 02:52 PM
My personal opinion is absolutely vaccinate. Vaccines are one of the medical breakthoughs that have extended our longevity overall. Petussis(whooping cough), measles, mumps, rubella, polio...I can't imagine my daughter with CF getting one of these illnesses. Have you heard of someone dying from tetanus, lately? No, because of vaccines. I get my daughter the flu shot every year, she's had the chicken pox vaccine... I've heard of a new rotavirus vaccine coming out I plan to ask my ped about. With CF, Prevention is key. Vaccination is one way we can prevent just one more illness for our CF loved ones.

Recently, in our area, there was a whooping cough outbreak(pertussis). Some children are not being protected from whooping cough becasue of delayed vaccination and not being vaccinated at all. Adults whooping cough vaccination I guess does not last a lifetime so adults(even those that had been vaccianted immunity wears off ) and then can give pertussis(if they are infected) to non-vaccinated children.

Of course, there are side effects to ANYTHING you put in your body...risk vs. benefit. We'll take the vaccine.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy 8 no CF and MAggie 3 1/2 with CF)

coltsfan715
09-28-2006, 02:52 PM
I wanted to add my opinion to this. I agree with everyone else that vaccinations are important. I am not sure of the exact vaccinations that I have had, but I know that I have not had any major problems from any vaccinations that were given to me growing up.

I think that it would be more beneficial to get the vaccinations then to refuse them and hope that your child is able to avoid catching the bacteria/illness that the vaccination was for in the first place.

I agree too with the idea of getting a flu shot. I am not sure if there are age limits on those, but I get one every year. Actually I can only recall not getting one once (I got it but flu season was practically over) because there was a shortage and I had to wait to find a place to buy one because my docs office had run out. I ended up sick before I got the shot and was miserable - I had a worse time by not getting it than I ever had after getting one.

Lindsey

coltsfan715
09-28-2006, 02:52 PM
I wanted to add my opinion to this. I agree with everyone else that vaccinations are important. I am not sure of the exact vaccinations that I have had, but I know that I have not had any major problems from any vaccinations that were given to me growing up.

I think that it would be more beneficial to get the vaccinations then to refuse them and hope that your child is able to avoid catching the bacteria/illness that the vaccination was for in the first place.

I agree too with the idea of getting a flu shot. I am not sure if there are age limits on those, but I get one every year. Actually I can only recall not getting one once (I got it but flu season was practically over) because there was a shortage and I had to wait to find a place to buy one because my docs office had run out. I ended up sick before I got the shot and was miserable - I had a worse time by not getting it than I ever had after getting one.

Lindsey

coltsfan715
09-28-2006, 02:52 PM
I wanted to add my opinion to this. I agree with everyone else that vaccinations are important. I am not sure of the exact vaccinations that I have had, but I know that I have not had any major problems from any vaccinations that were given to me growing up.

I think that it would be more beneficial to get the vaccinations then to refuse them and hope that your child is able to avoid catching the bacteria/illness that the vaccination was for in the first place.

I agree too with the idea of getting a flu shot. I am not sure if there are age limits on those, but I get one every year. Actually I can only recall not getting one once (I got it but flu season was practically over) because there was a shortage and I had to wait to find a place to buy one because my docs office had run out. I ended up sick before I got the shot and was miserable - I had a worse time by not getting it than I ever had after getting one.

Lindsey

Ratatosk
09-28-2006, 02:58 PM
On a side note -- majority of the people who got pertussis/whooping cough in our area were teens and adults. At the time there wasn't a vaccine for adults. There now is -- I received it this summer when I got my tetanus booster.

Ratatosk
09-28-2006, 02:58 PM
On a side note -- majority of the people who got pertussis/whooping cough in our area were teens and adults. At the time there wasn't a vaccine for adults. There now is -- I received it this summer when I got my tetanus booster.

Ratatosk
09-28-2006, 02:58 PM
On a side note -- majority of the people who got pertussis/whooping cough in our area were teens and adults. At the time there wasn't a vaccine for adults. There now is -- I received it this summer when I got my tetanus booster.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 05:46 PM
I have a 3 month old with cf, and he got all of his two month vaccinations. We did not give it a second thought. Lucky for us he didn't have any problems except a mild fever and cholic, but those are normal for all babies. I think you stand a much better chance at keeping colds and flus away with the shots than without. Don't leave you child unprotected.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 05:46 PM
I have a 3 month old with cf, and he got all of his two month vaccinations. We did not give it a second thought. Lucky for us he didn't have any problems except a mild fever and cholic, but those are normal for all babies. I think you stand a much better chance at keeping colds and flus away with the shots than without. Don't leave you child unprotected.

anonymous
09-28-2006, 05:46 PM
I have a 3 month old with cf, and he got all of his two month vaccinations. We did not give it a second thought. Lucky for us he didn't have any problems except a mild fever and cholic, but those are normal for all babies. I think you stand a much better chance at keeping colds and flus away with the shots than without. Don't leave you child unprotected.

anonymous
09-29-2006, 06:58 PM
My 3 month old son (CF) got his vaccinations as well at 2 months and will be getting more at his 4 month appt. He will also be starting the RSV shot next month and will continue monthly doses of it through the winter season. Come December, when he is 6 months, he will get the flu shot and so will my husband, my daughter (3yrs noCF) and me.

CF or not, I will never understand how some are so aginst vaccinating. Just please think long and hard about this one, especially with him having CF, this could help keep him from getting some really dangerous "bugs".

anonymous
09-29-2006, 06:58 PM
My 3 month old son (CF) got his vaccinations as well at 2 months and will be getting more at his 4 month appt. He will also be starting the RSV shot next month and will continue monthly doses of it through the winter season. Come December, when he is 6 months, he will get the flu shot and so will my husband, my daughter (3yrs noCF) and me.

CF or not, I will never understand how some are so aginst vaccinating. Just please think long and hard about this one, especially with him having CF, this could help keep him from getting some really dangerous "bugs".

anonymous
09-29-2006, 06:58 PM
My 3 month old son (CF) got his vaccinations as well at 2 months and will be getting more at his 4 month appt. He will also be starting the RSV shot next month and will continue monthly doses of it through the winter season. Come December, when he is 6 months, he will get the flu shot and so will my husband, my daughter (3yrs noCF) and me.

CF or not, I will never understand how some are so aginst vaccinating. Just please think long and hard about this one, especially with him having CF, this could help keep him from getting some really dangerous "bugs".

anonymous
09-29-2006, 07:42 PM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>miesl</b></i>

You want strong opinions? You'll get them here, starting with me.



I think it's highly irresponsible and deeply stupid to not vaccinate children. It's not only a disservice to the child, but also to society in general. We're trying to eliminate some of these nasty diseases that used to wipe out huge numbers of the population - failure to vaccinate just perpetuates the cycle. Go figure that recently we've been having mumps and whooping cough reappear.



*rant rant rant* *steps off soapbox*</end quote></div>


I agree when it comes to children. It's the parents' responsibility to protect their kids and put them in the highest place on the prioritization chart.

I got all my vaccinations as a kid. Now that I'm an adult, I choose not to get the flu shot. The only times I've gotten the flu was when I got the shot. For me it's not a fair trade. I work from home during flu season and do what I can to keep my cooties to myself.


-lightNlife

Now that I'm

anonymous
09-29-2006, 07:42 PM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>miesl</b></i>

You want strong opinions? You'll get them here, starting with me.



I think it's highly irresponsible and deeply stupid to not vaccinate children. It's not only a disservice to the child, but also to society in general. We're trying to eliminate some of these nasty diseases that used to wipe out huge numbers of the population - failure to vaccinate just perpetuates the cycle. Go figure that recently we've been having mumps and whooping cough reappear.



*rant rant rant* *steps off soapbox*</end quote></div>


I agree when it comes to children. It's the parents' responsibility to protect their kids and put them in the highest place on the prioritization chart.

I got all my vaccinations as a kid. Now that I'm an adult, I choose not to get the flu shot. The only times I've gotten the flu was when I got the shot. For me it's not a fair trade. I work from home during flu season and do what I can to keep my cooties to myself.


-lightNlife

Now that I'm

anonymous
09-29-2006, 07:42 PM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>miesl</b></i>

You want strong opinions? You'll get them here, starting with me.



I think it's highly irresponsible and deeply stupid to not vaccinate children. It's not only a disservice to the child, but also to society in general. We're trying to eliminate some of these nasty diseases that used to wipe out huge numbers of the population - failure to vaccinate just perpetuates the cycle. Go figure that recently we've been having mumps and whooping cough reappear.



*rant rant rant* *steps off soapbox*</end quote></div>


I agree when it comes to children. It's the parents' responsibility to protect their kids and put them in the highest place on the prioritization chart.

I got all my vaccinations as a kid. Now that I'm an adult, I choose not to get the flu shot. The only times I've gotten the flu was when I got the shot. For me it's not a fair trade. I work from home during flu season and do what I can to keep my cooties to myself.


-lightNlife

Now that I'm

mamaj
09-29-2006, 10:37 PM
Thank you all very much. &nbsp;I appreciate everyone's input.<br>
<br>
Let me say that I absolutely know it is my responsibility &nbsp;to
protect my child. &nbsp;I have been researching from the time I
found out I was pregnant... about EVERYTHING I could get my hands
on, one of the main things being vaccinations. I did not ask for
your opinions because I am an idiot that needs others to tell me
what is right and what is wrong. &nbsp;&nbsp;I look for information
where ever it might be offered, and this forum seemed like a good
place (and it was... I really do appreciate everyone's responses).
&nbsp;I will not go blindly into ANYTHING that has to do with my
child's health. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Doctors have been wrong before... and so, I even question them...
it is my right, and it is my responsibility. &nbsp;I asked for
opinions...not lectures, or name calling. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
I have to agree, that in this respect, I do believe that the
benefits of vaccinations, far out way the risks, and I will be
vaccinating. &nbsp;I do live in Canada... and because of our
healthcare system, the percentage of those vaccinated is very high,
and so it is also very likely that I will be able to avoid exposing
my son to some of the threats that these vaccinations protect us
from(no outbreaks of anything in my city). &nbsp;Because of this
protection, I will wait on some of the vaccinations until he is two
years old, as it is the first two years that are so crucial for
their own immune systems to build (and the better that works, the
better off he'll be in the long run). &nbsp;I am in consultation
with his CF doctor regarding this subject, and he has told
me&nbsp;the shots which he insists my son gets, and supports my
decision to wait on the other until he is two.<br>
<br>
Let me also add, that I am a strong woman, who will not cower to
rants. &nbsp;I will, however, continue to read any responses to
this, because I may learn something new(or maybe I'll be able to
tell you something new?).<br>
<br>
I will also let you know, that I will sacrifice whatever it takes
for my son's health. &nbsp;If it means I give up my some of my
favourite activities for the next year and a half, so that I do not
risk my son to exposure, I WILL. &nbsp;If it means that I have to
read Health Watch &nbsp;anytime before we leave our safe zone, to
be sure we do not face a threat, I WILL. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Second last thing: &nbsp;Did you know that the more you touch your
child, the better their immune system will be? &nbsp;I give my baby
boy a full body massage every night before bedtime. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Last thing: &nbsp;Strong opinions do not mean you have to be rude
or insulting. &nbsp;What if I was a really scared mom? &nbsp;What
if I had no one else to turn to? &nbsp;What if you made me feel so
incompetent, because you threw out a label like "stupid"
, and in my weakened state actually felt stupid&nbsp;(because I had
only just found out about my son's diagnosis and felt personally
attacked even if that was not a direct insult), what if that mom
never came back? &nbsp;I imagine everyone here has so much to
offer... please try to remember the empathy you must have<br>
<br>
And off the soapbox I go.<br>
<br>
Mama J

mamaj
09-29-2006, 10:37 PM
Thank you all very much. &nbsp;I appreciate everyone's input.<br>
<br>
Let me say that I absolutely know it is my responsibility &nbsp;to
protect my child. &nbsp;I have been researching from the time I
found out I was pregnant... about EVERYTHING I could get my hands
on, one of the main things being vaccinations. I did not ask for
your opinions because I am an idiot that needs others to tell me
what is right and what is wrong. &nbsp;&nbsp;I look for information
where ever it might be offered, and this forum seemed like a good
place (and it was... I really do appreciate everyone's responses).
&nbsp;I will not go blindly into ANYTHING that has to do with my
child's health. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Doctors have been wrong before... and so, I even question them...
it is my right, and it is my responsibility. &nbsp;I asked for
opinions...not lectures, or name calling. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
I have to agree, that in this respect, I do believe that the
benefits of vaccinations, far out way the risks, and I will be
vaccinating. &nbsp;I do live in Canada... and because of our
healthcare system, the percentage of those vaccinated is very high,
and so it is also very likely that I will be able to avoid exposing
my son to some of the threats that these vaccinations protect us
from(no outbreaks of anything in my city). &nbsp;Because of this
protection, I will wait on some of the vaccinations until he is two
years old, as it is the first two years that are so crucial for
their own immune systems to build (and the better that works, the
better off he'll be in the long run). &nbsp;I am in consultation
with his CF doctor regarding this subject, and he has told
me&nbsp;the shots which he insists my son gets, and supports my
decision to wait on the other until he is two.<br>
<br>
Let me also add, that I am a strong woman, who will not cower to
rants. &nbsp;I will, however, continue to read any responses to
this, because I may learn something new(or maybe I'll be able to
tell you something new?).<br>
<br>
I will also let you know, that I will sacrifice whatever it takes
for my son's health. &nbsp;If it means I give up my some of my
favourite activities for the next year and a half, so that I do not
risk my son to exposure, I WILL. &nbsp;If it means that I have to
read Health Watch &nbsp;anytime before we leave our safe zone, to
be sure we do not face a threat, I WILL. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Second last thing: &nbsp;Did you know that the more you touch your
child, the better their immune system will be? &nbsp;I give my baby
boy a full body massage every night before bedtime. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Last thing: &nbsp;Strong opinions do not mean you have to be rude
or insulting. &nbsp;What if I was a really scared mom? &nbsp;What
if I had no one else to turn to? &nbsp;What if you made me feel so
incompetent, because you threw out a label like "stupid"
, and in my weakened state actually felt stupid&nbsp;(because I had
only just found out about my son's diagnosis and felt personally
attacked even if that was not a direct insult), what if that mom
never came back? &nbsp;I imagine everyone here has so much to
offer... please try to remember the empathy you must have<br>
<br>
And off the soapbox I go.<br>
<br>
Mama J

mamaj
09-29-2006, 10:37 PM
Thank you all very much. &nbsp;I appreciate everyone's input.<br>
<br>
Let me say that I absolutely know it is my responsibility &nbsp;to
protect my child. &nbsp;I have been researching from the time I
found out I was pregnant... about EVERYTHING I could get my hands
on, one of the main things being vaccinations. I did not ask for
your opinions because I am an idiot that needs others to tell me
what is right and what is wrong. &nbsp;&nbsp;I look for information
where ever it might be offered, and this forum seemed like a good
place (and it was... I really do appreciate everyone's responses).
&nbsp;I will not go blindly into ANYTHING that has to do with my
child's health. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Doctors have been wrong before... and so, I even question them...
it is my right, and it is my responsibility. &nbsp;I asked for
opinions...not lectures, or name calling. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
I have to agree, that in this respect, I do believe that the
benefits of vaccinations, far out way the risks, and I will be
vaccinating. &nbsp;I do live in Canada... and because of our
healthcare system, the percentage of those vaccinated is very high,
and so it is also very likely that I will be able to avoid exposing
my son to some of the threats that these vaccinations protect us
from(no outbreaks of anything in my city). &nbsp;Because of this
protection, I will wait on some of the vaccinations until he is two
years old, as it is the first two years that are so crucial for
their own immune systems to build (and the better that works, the
better off he'll be in the long run). &nbsp;I am in consultation
with his CF doctor regarding this subject, and he has told
me&nbsp;the shots which he insists my son gets, and supports my
decision to wait on the other until he is two.<br>
<br>
Let me also add, that I am a strong woman, who will not cower to
rants. &nbsp;I will, however, continue to read any responses to
this, because I may learn something new(or maybe I'll be able to
tell you something new?).<br>
<br>
I will also let you know, that I will sacrifice whatever it takes
for my son's health. &nbsp;If it means I give up my some of my
favourite activities for the next year and a half, so that I do not
risk my son to exposure, I WILL. &nbsp;If it means that I have to
read Health Watch &nbsp;anytime before we leave our safe zone, to
be sure we do not face a threat, I WILL. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Second last thing: &nbsp;Did you know that the more you touch your
child, the better their immune system will be? &nbsp;I give my baby
boy a full body massage every night before bedtime. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Last thing: &nbsp;Strong opinions do not mean you have to be rude
or insulting. &nbsp;What if I was a really scared mom? &nbsp;What
if I had no one else to turn to? &nbsp;What if you made me feel so
incompetent, because you threw out a label like "stupid"
, and in my weakened state actually felt stupid&nbsp;(because I had
only just found out about my son's diagnosis and felt personally
attacked even if that was not a direct insult), what if that mom
never came back? &nbsp;I imagine everyone here has so much to
offer... please try to remember the empathy you must have<br>
<br>
And off the soapbox I go.<br>
<br>
Mama J

amber682
09-30-2006, 01:53 AM
I believe all children need their immunizations and on time, not 2 years late. Plus, a child with CF may receive a couple extras, such as flu, pneumonia, or RSV vaccines. Speaking from personal experience, you do not want the child to get RSV. I could go on and on about that, it was the single most awful experience of my life and I thought my baby was going to die. A lot of those things the child would be vaccinated against are more serious to a child under 2 or the elderly, even deadly, so why wait until age 2. The risk from the vaccines is so much less than from the diseases themselves.

amber682
09-30-2006, 01:53 AM
I believe all children need their immunizations and on time, not 2 years late. Plus, a child with CF may receive a couple extras, such as flu, pneumonia, or RSV vaccines. Speaking from personal experience, you do not want the child to get RSV. I could go on and on about that, it was the single most awful experience of my life and I thought my baby was going to die. A lot of those things the child would be vaccinated against are more serious to a child under 2 or the elderly, even deadly, so why wait until age 2. The risk from the vaccines is so much less than from the diseases themselves.

amber682
09-30-2006, 01:53 AM
I believe all children need their immunizations and on time, not 2 years late. Plus, a child with CF may receive a couple extras, such as flu, pneumonia, or RSV vaccines. Speaking from personal experience, you do not want the child to get RSV. I could go on and on about that, it was the single most awful experience of my life and I thought my baby was going to die. A lot of those things the child would be vaccinated against are more serious to a child under 2 or the elderly, even deadly, so why wait until age 2. The risk from the vaccines is so much less than from the diseases themselves.

anonymous
09-30-2006, 10:03 AM
Mamaj,

I'm curious as to why waiting til your child is 2 would develop his immune system better for the vaccinations? I know I feel a healthy immune system is very important. We all have our own parenting styles, my way of building both my children's immune system was to breastfeed.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy 8 no CF and Maggie 3 1/2 with CF)

anonymous
09-30-2006, 10:03 AM
Mamaj,

I'm curious as to why waiting til your child is 2 would develop his immune system better for the vaccinations? I know I feel a healthy immune system is very important. We all have our own parenting styles, my way of building both my children's immune system was to breastfeed.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy 8 no CF and Maggie 3 1/2 with CF)

anonymous
09-30-2006, 10:03 AM
Mamaj,

I'm curious as to why waiting til your child is 2 would develop his immune system better for the vaccinations? I know I feel a healthy immune system is very important. We all have our own parenting styles, my way of building both my children's immune system was to breastfeed.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy 8 no CF and Maggie 3 1/2 with CF)

mamaj
09-30-2006, 02:32 PM
Rebecca,<br>
<br>
I wish I could have breast fed longer. &nbsp;We only managed 3
months. &nbsp;He has a slightly recessed chin(gets it from me), and
because of that, his latch wasn't very good. &nbsp;Their were some
other factors as well. &nbsp;For three months, all I did was breast
feed, try to breast feed more, went to a lactation consultant had
her come to my house,go to&nbsp;the breast clinic, La Leche League,
and so on...<br>
<br>
I had no postpartum depression, but losing the breast feeding...
&nbsp;that was tough.<br>
<br>
From what I have learned, the first two years of a child's life are
the most important for the immune building system (not to mention
everything else!). &nbsp;My research and intuition (and the fact
that many doctors are unwilling to even discuss my concerns) leaves
me on the side of letting nature do its work, for those first two
years. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
I would morn a second time about the breast feeding when my son was
diagnosed, because, as you said, the breast milk is paramount in
building your child's immune system, and how he could have used
it!<br>
<br>
For my own health care... I was always very reluctant to take drugs
to aid my recovery. &nbsp;I believe in preventative care. &nbsp;I
have only had to visit the hospital because of my clumsiness
(broken foot, sprained ankles, etc.) &nbsp;I catch bugs, and I
fight them off within a day or two, and it doesn't slow me
down.<br>
<br>
I never get the flu shot, and I never get the flu. &nbsp;I can say
the same for my mother and my older brother. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
So my parenting style... I am so trying to figure the absolutely
best course of action for my son. &nbsp;He is going to need the
best of everything in order to have the best life. &nbsp;I want to
give him the best of everything God gave him (wait two years on
whatever I can so the imprints of what does work... works for him),
and give him what Western medicine can offer him, to ensure his
best rate of survival. &nbsp;And the best that I can give him.
&nbsp;I need to look at each and every vaccination. &nbsp;I need to
research the pros/cons for each. &nbsp;On the ones that I decide to
give him, I then need to look at and research each ingredient, to
see if any particular ones might increase the chances, of say,
having a reaction that would further risk his respiratory system.
&nbsp;Investigate the ones I hope not to give him immediately, and
see how it is transmitted... and on and on. &nbsp;I have to do this
in between trying to manage our new life with enzymes, vitamin
supplements, percussions, &nbsp;trying to have some kind of eating
schedule because of the need for enzymes, getting up five times
during the night to feed him, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, and dad
is away working... to make the money we are going to need to make
the house CF friendly.... so tired!<br>
<br>
But... it's coming together. &nbsp;And Gabriel's doctor is great.
&nbsp;Out clinic is great. &nbsp;We are so very fortunate to have
all the support we do. &nbsp;

mamaj
09-30-2006, 02:32 PM
Rebecca,<br>
<br>
I wish I could have breast fed longer. &nbsp;We only managed 3
months. &nbsp;He has a slightly recessed chin(gets it from me), and
because of that, his latch wasn't very good. &nbsp;Their were some
other factors as well. &nbsp;For three months, all I did was breast
feed, try to breast feed more, went to a lactation consultant had
her come to my house,go to&nbsp;the breast clinic, La Leche League,
and so on...<br>
<br>
I had no postpartum depression, but losing the breast feeding...
&nbsp;that was tough.<br>
<br>
From what I have learned, the first two years of a child's life are
the most important for the immune building system (not to mention
everything else!). &nbsp;My research and intuition (and the fact
that many doctors are unwilling to even discuss my concerns) leaves
me on the side of letting nature do its work, for those first two
years. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
I would morn a second time about the breast feeding when my son was
diagnosed, because, as you said, the breast milk is paramount in
building your child's immune system, and how he could have used
it!<br>
<br>
For my own health care... I was always very reluctant to take drugs
to aid my recovery. &nbsp;I believe in preventative care. &nbsp;I
have only had to visit the hospital because of my clumsiness
(broken foot, sprained ankles, etc.) &nbsp;I catch bugs, and I
fight them off within a day or two, and it doesn't slow me
down.<br>
<br>
I never get the flu shot, and I never get the flu. &nbsp;I can say
the same for my mother and my older brother. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
So my parenting style... I am so trying to figure the absolutely
best course of action for my son. &nbsp;He is going to need the
best of everything in order to have the best life. &nbsp;I want to
give him the best of everything God gave him (wait two years on
whatever I can so the imprints of what does work... works for him),
and give him what Western medicine can offer him, to ensure his
best rate of survival. &nbsp;And the best that I can give him.
&nbsp;I need to look at each and every vaccination. &nbsp;I need to
research the pros/cons for each. &nbsp;On the ones that I decide to
give him, I then need to look at and research each ingredient, to
see if any particular ones might increase the chances, of say,
having a reaction that would further risk his respiratory system.
&nbsp;Investigate the ones I hope not to give him immediately, and
see how it is transmitted... and on and on. &nbsp;I have to do this
in between trying to manage our new life with enzymes, vitamin
supplements, percussions, &nbsp;trying to have some kind of eating
schedule because of the need for enzymes, getting up five times
during the night to feed him, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, and dad
is away working... to make the money we are going to need to make
the house CF friendly.... so tired!<br>
<br>
But... it's coming together. &nbsp;And Gabriel's doctor is great.
&nbsp;Out clinic is great. &nbsp;We are so very fortunate to have
all the support we do. &nbsp;

mamaj
09-30-2006, 02:32 PM
Rebecca,<br>
<br>
I wish I could have breast fed longer. &nbsp;We only managed 3
months. &nbsp;He has a slightly recessed chin(gets it from me), and
because of that, his latch wasn't very good. &nbsp;Their were some
other factors as well. &nbsp;For three months, all I did was breast
feed, try to breast feed more, went to a lactation consultant had
her come to my house,go to&nbsp;the breast clinic, La Leche League,
and so on...<br>
<br>
I had no postpartum depression, but losing the breast feeding...
&nbsp;that was tough.<br>
<br>
From what I have learned, the first two years of a child's life are
the most important for the immune building system (not to mention
everything else!). &nbsp;My research and intuition (and the fact
that many doctors are unwilling to even discuss my concerns) leaves
me on the side of letting nature do its work, for those first two
years. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
I would morn a second time about the breast feeding when my son was
diagnosed, because, as you said, the breast milk is paramount in
building your child's immune system, and how he could have used
it!<br>
<br>
For my own health care... I was always very reluctant to take drugs
to aid my recovery. &nbsp;I believe in preventative care. &nbsp;I
have only had to visit the hospital because of my clumsiness
(broken foot, sprained ankles, etc.) &nbsp;I catch bugs, and I
fight them off within a day or two, and it doesn't slow me
down.<br>
<br>
I never get the flu shot, and I never get the flu. &nbsp;I can say
the same for my mother and my older brother. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
So my parenting style... I am so trying to figure the absolutely
best course of action for my son. &nbsp;He is going to need the
best of everything in order to have the best life. &nbsp;I want to
give him the best of everything God gave him (wait two years on
whatever I can so the imprints of what does work... works for him),
and give him what Western medicine can offer him, to ensure his
best rate of survival. &nbsp;And the best that I can give him.
&nbsp;I need to look at each and every vaccination. &nbsp;I need to
research the pros/cons for each. &nbsp;On the ones that I decide to
give him, I then need to look at and research each ingredient, to
see if any particular ones might increase the chances, of say,
having a reaction that would further risk his respiratory system.
&nbsp;Investigate the ones I hope not to give him immediately, and
see how it is transmitted... and on and on. &nbsp;I have to do this
in between trying to manage our new life with enzymes, vitamin
supplements, percussions, &nbsp;trying to have some kind of eating
schedule because of the need for enzymes, getting up five times
during the night to feed him, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, and dad
is away working... to make the money we are going to need to make
the house CF friendly.... so tired!<br>
<br>
But... it's coming together. &nbsp;And Gabriel's doctor is great.
&nbsp;Out clinic is great. &nbsp;We are so very fortunate to have
all the support we do. &nbsp;

Scarlett81
10-02-2006, 01:33 PM
Here's my opinion for what its worth-
Cf is an extreme disease, and that causes for extreme measures sometimes. If I had a kid with cf-there would be no exceptions-vaccinate!!!! I had the flu as a kid, and it almost killed me. I had pneumonia as a kid, it almost killed me. Now we have vax's for that stuff and even if they help a little, right?

I also wanted to say, I totally see your point about trying to keep things as natural as possible and not over medicating. I feel the same way, and its annoying when you have a doctor that just wants to push pills on you to fix everything. Yes, medicine has come a long way and its there for us, but its a balance. I hate when I see parents that give their kids all this needless medicine, or "natural" medicine too for that matter, and here I mean non-cf, perfectly healthy kids. Let your kid be a kid.

I would never go to a doctor that said-anything you do naturally won't do anything to help you whatsoever/or a naturopath that said, all doctors are evil and greedy. Whatever happened to balance?

Scarlett81
10-02-2006, 01:33 PM
Here's my opinion for what its worth-
Cf is an extreme disease, and that causes for extreme measures sometimes. If I had a kid with cf-there would be no exceptions-vaccinate!!!! I had the flu as a kid, and it almost killed me. I had pneumonia as a kid, it almost killed me. Now we have vax's for that stuff and even if they help a little, right?

I also wanted to say, I totally see your point about trying to keep things as natural as possible and not over medicating. I feel the same way, and its annoying when you have a doctor that just wants to push pills on you to fix everything. Yes, medicine has come a long way and its there for us, but its a balance. I hate when I see parents that give their kids all this needless medicine, or "natural" medicine too for that matter, and here I mean non-cf, perfectly healthy kids. Let your kid be a kid.

I would never go to a doctor that said-anything you do naturally won't do anything to help you whatsoever/or a naturopath that said, all doctors are evil and greedy. Whatever happened to balance?

Scarlett81
10-02-2006, 01:33 PM
Here's my opinion for what its worth-
Cf is an extreme disease, and that causes for extreme measures sometimes. If I had a kid with cf-there would be no exceptions-vaccinate!!!! I had the flu as a kid, and it almost killed me. I had pneumonia as a kid, it almost killed me. Now we have vax's for that stuff and even if they help a little, right?

I also wanted to say, I totally see your point about trying to keep things as natural as possible and not over medicating. I feel the same way, and its annoying when you have a doctor that just wants to push pills on you to fix everything. Yes, medicine has come a long way and its there for us, but its a balance. I hate when I see parents that give their kids all this needless medicine, or "natural" medicine too for that matter, and here I mean non-cf, perfectly healthy kids. Let your kid be a kid.

I would never go to a doctor that said-anything you do naturally won't do anything to help you whatsoever/or a naturopath that said, all doctors are evil and greedy. Whatever happened to balance?

mamaj
10-02-2006, 03:08 PM
Christian,<br>
<br>
Sending you baby making vibes right now (I hear it helps)!<br>
<br>
Thanks for your response. &nbsp;I agree with everything you said.
&nbsp;I realize now that some of the issue may be what we get
routinely vaccinated for here in Canada... and what the norm is in
the United States. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Anything he stands a chance of
getting, and could kill him... or even nearly kill him... I am
getting him vaccinated for now!!! &nbsp;There are some, though,
that the chances are so remote, that if I can hold off until he's
two, I will. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Having Gabriel is most definitely the best thing that has ever
happened to me (and I've had an exciting life of world traveling,
sports, etc.), and I am most interested in what's best for him.<br>
<br>
Jana

mamaj
10-02-2006, 03:08 PM
Christian,<br>
<br>
Sending you baby making vibes right now (I hear it helps)!<br>
<br>
Thanks for your response. &nbsp;I agree with everything you said.
&nbsp;I realize now that some of the issue may be what we get
routinely vaccinated for here in Canada... and what the norm is in
the United States. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Anything he stands a chance of
getting, and could kill him... or even nearly kill him... I am
getting him vaccinated for now!!! &nbsp;There are some, though,
that the chances are so remote, that if I can hold off until he's
two, I will. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Having Gabriel is most definitely the best thing that has ever
happened to me (and I've had an exciting life of world traveling,
sports, etc.), and I am most interested in what's best for him.<br>
<br>
Jana

mamaj
10-02-2006, 03:08 PM
Christian,<br>
<br>
Sending you baby making vibes right now (I hear it helps)!<br>
<br>
Thanks for your response. &nbsp;I agree with everything you said.
&nbsp;I realize now that some of the issue may be what we get
routinely vaccinated for here in Canada... and what the norm is in
the United States. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Anything he stands a chance of
getting, and could kill him... or even nearly kill him... I am
getting him vaccinated for now!!! &nbsp;There are some, though,
that the chances are so remote, that if I can hold off until he's
two, I will. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Having Gabriel is most definitely the best thing that has ever
happened to me (and I've had an exciting life of world traveling,
sports, etc.), and I am most interested in what's best for him.<br>
<br>
Jana

LouLou
10-02-2006, 05:20 PM
I had all the vaccines I was suggested to as a babe. I had the flu shot since age 2 every year except '99 (when I thought I was too good for it). I contracted the flu which progressed into pneumonia within 3 days. Sadly I lost a large % of my lung capacity from this one infection. My upper right lobe is trashed. Good luck!

LouLou
10-02-2006, 05:20 PM
I had all the vaccines I was suggested to as a babe. I had the flu shot since age 2 every year except '99 (when I thought I was too good for it). I contracted the flu which progressed into pneumonia within 3 days. Sadly I lost a large % of my lung capacity from this one infection. My upper right lobe is trashed. Good luck!

LouLou
10-02-2006, 05:20 PM
I had all the vaccines I was suggested to as a babe. I had the flu shot since age 2 every year except '99 (when I thought I was too good for it). I contracted the flu which progressed into pneumonia within 3 days. Sadly I lost a large % of my lung capacity from this one infection. My upper right lobe is trashed. Good luck!

mamaj
10-03-2006, 01:28 AM
This is part of the issue. &nbsp;There is lots of evidence
(medical, anecdotal, personal) suggesting that the more we
interfere... the more we have to continue to interfere. &nbsp;Of
course, if you take the flu shot every year... you MUST keep taking
it. &nbsp;You have robed your body of its own inate&nbsp;ability to
fight the infection. &nbsp;But... that's a non-CF'r talking.
&nbsp;I have a whole lot more learning to do before I can make any
decisions about that when it comes to a person with Cystic
Fibrosis. &nbsp;I know that if I COULD avoid the antibiotics and
vaccinations for his first two years, it would be good for his own
natural immune system... it would be stronger and work better for
him for the rest of his life(which could mean he would get sick a
lot less... have to take less antibiotics... have lungs that last
him longer... I think you see my point). &nbsp;The problem with
that... &nbsp;he may not have two years if I don't use the drugs.
&nbsp;I understand that. &nbsp;Part of me wishes we could live in a
bubble for the first two years. &nbsp;He's the best company I've
ever had... I'd be up for it!<br>
<br>
Anyway, thanks again everyone for sharing . &nbsp;It's really great
that you are all here.<br>
<br>
Take care... and never stop learning.

mamaj
10-03-2006, 01:28 AM
This is part of the issue. &nbsp;There is lots of evidence
(medical, anecdotal, personal) suggesting that the more we
interfere... the more we have to continue to interfere. &nbsp;Of
course, if you take the flu shot every year... you MUST keep taking
it. &nbsp;You have robed your body of its own inate&nbsp;ability to
fight the infection. &nbsp;But... that's a non-CF'r talking.
&nbsp;I have a whole lot more learning to do before I can make any
decisions about that when it comes to a person with Cystic
Fibrosis. &nbsp;I know that if I COULD avoid the antibiotics and
vaccinations for his first two years, it would be good for his own
natural immune system... it would be stronger and work better for
him for the rest of his life(which could mean he would get sick a
lot less... have to take less antibiotics... have lungs that last
him longer... I think you see my point). &nbsp;The problem with
that... &nbsp;he may not have two years if I don't use the drugs.
&nbsp;I understand that. &nbsp;Part of me wishes we could live in a
bubble for the first two years. &nbsp;He's the best company I've
ever had... I'd be up for it!<br>
<br>
Anyway, thanks again everyone for sharing . &nbsp;It's really great
that you are all here.<br>
<br>
Take care... and never stop learning.

mamaj
10-03-2006, 01:28 AM
This is part of the issue. &nbsp;There is lots of evidence
(medical, anecdotal, personal) suggesting that the more we
interfere... the more we have to continue to interfere. &nbsp;Of
course, if you take the flu shot every year... you MUST keep taking
it. &nbsp;You have robed your body of its own inate&nbsp;ability to
fight the infection. &nbsp;But... that's a non-CF'r talking.
&nbsp;I have a whole lot more learning to do before I can make any
decisions about that when it comes to a person with Cystic
Fibrosis. &nbsp;I know that if I COULD avoid the antibiotics and
vaccinations for his first two years, it would be good for his own
natural immune system... it would be stronger and work better for
him for the rest of his life(which could mean he would get sick a
lot less... have to take less antibiotics... have lungs that last
him longer... I think you see my point). &nbsp;The problem with
that... &nbsp;he may not have two years if I don't use the drugs.
&nbsp;I understand that. &nbsp;Part of me wishes we could live in a
bubble for the first two years. &nbsp;He's the best company I've
ever had... I'd be up for it!<br>
<br>
Anyway, thanks again everyone for sharing . &nbsp;It's really great
that you are all here.<br>
<br>
Take care... and never stop learning.

anonymous
10-03-2006, 02:20 AM
Well if you're going that route, the flu shot and RSV preventative are a must. I literally thought my son was going to die when he got RSV. Whooping cough too is an important one. Make sure any one that could affect the lungs is done. Although I personally would not risk missing any immunizations. The risk is so remote because they're vaccinated.

anonymous
10-03-2006, 02:20 AM
Well if you're going that route, the flu shot and RSV preventative are a must. I literally thought my son was going to die when he got RSV. Whooping cough too is an important one. Make sure any one that could affect the lungs is done. Although I personally would not risk missing any immunizations. The risk is so remote because they're vaccinated.

anonymous
10-03-2006, 02:20 AM
Well if you're going that route, the flu shot and RSV preventative are a must. I literally thought my son was going to die when he got RSV. Whooping cough too is an important one. Make sure any one that could affect the lungs is done. Although I personally would not risk missing any immunizations. The risk is so remote because they're vaccinated.

anonymous
10-03-2006, 10:16 AM
Well, even vaccinations aren't perfect. My oldest DS (no CF) had whooping cough at 13 m. It was VERY scary. His vaccinations were all on time but he caught it nonetheless. My niece, nephew, and former babysitter's DD all had chickenpox.... They had all been vaccinated and they did NOT all get mild cases. I think every parent has to make an informed choice. For me, that was vaccinations on time but I won't fault another parent for making a different choice so long as they're fully informed and understand the information that's been presented. That is clearly the case with this poster (IMO).

To the OP, I think if you can avoid the antibiotics that's wonderful - <b><i>I would try it if your child is healthy.</i></b> My children all (for various reasons) received lots of antibiotics as infants/toddlers/preschoolers. 2nd DS is 8 and has been on something like 50+ rounds of antibiotics ranging from 3 days IV to 6 weeks oral, mostly for lung/sinus infections or ear infections plus several strep throats. Poor kid has no immune system of his own (no, I'm not speaking literally). I've very often wondered if we didn't sabotage the poor kid with all the antibiotics. It's such a catch 22 though. At least his lung functions are well over 100% when well<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

anonymous
10-03-2006, 10:16 AM
Well, even vaccinations aren't perfect. My oldest DS (no CF) had whooping cough at 13 m. It was VERY scary. His vaccinations were all on time but he caught it nonetheless. My niece, nephew, and former babysitter's DD all had chickenpox.... They had all been vaccinated and they did NOT all get mild cases. I think every parent has to make an informed choice. For me, that was vaccinations on time but I won't fault another parent for making a different choice so long as they're fully informed and understand the information that's been presented. That is clearly the case with this poster (IMO).

To the OP, I think if you can avoid the antibiotics that's wonderful - <b><i>I would try it if your child is healthy.</i></b> My children all (for various reasons) received lots of antibiotics as infants/toddlers/preschoolers. 2nd DS is 8 and has been on something like 50+ rounds of antibiotics ranging from 3 days IV to 6 weeks oral, mostly for lung/sinus infections or ear infections plus several strep throats. Poor kid has no immune system of his own (no, I'm not speaking literally). I've very often wondered if we didn't sabotage the poor kid with all the antibiotics. It's such a catch 22 though. At least his lung functions are well over 100% when well<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

anonymous
10-03-2006, 10:16 AM
Well, even vaccinations aren't perfect. My oldest DS (no CF) had whooping cough at 13 m. It was VERY scary. His vaccinations were all on time but he caught it nonetheless. My niece, nephew, and former babysitter's DD all had chickenpox.... They had all been vaccinated and they did NOT all get mild cases. I think every parent has to make an informed choice. For me, that was vaccinations on time but I won't fault another parent for making a different choice so long as they're fully informed and understand the information that's been presented. That is clearly the case with this poster (IMO).

To the OP, I think if you can avoid the antibiotics that's wonderful - <b><i>I would try it if your child is healthy.</i></b> My children all (for various reasons) received lots of antibiotics as infants/toddlers/preschoolers. 2nd DS is 8 and has been on something like 50+ rounds of antibiotics ranging from 3 days IV to 6 weeks oral, mostly for lung/sinus infections or ear infections plus several strep throats. Poor kid has no immune system of his own (no, I'm not speaking literally). I've very often wondered if we didn't sabotage the poor kid with all the antibiotics. It's such a catch 22 though. At least his lung functions are well over 100% when well<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

anonymous
10-03-2006, 10:18 AM
Last poster here, I meant to say as long as they're fully informed, understand the information that's been presented, and <b><i>are making the decision in the best interest of their child.</i></b> Sadly, there are fully informed intelligent people who do not make decisions in the best interest of their child. But, I don't think the OP is one of them.

anonymous
10-03-2006, 10:18 AM
Last poster here, I meant to say as long as they're fully informed, understand the information that's been presented, and <b><i>are making the decision in the best interest of their child.</i></b> Sadly, there are fully informed intelligent people who do not make decisions in the best interest of their child. But, I don't think the OP is one of them.

anonymous
10-03-2006, 10:18 AM
Last poster here, I meant to say as long as they're fully informed, understand the information that's been presented, and <b><i>are making the decision in the best interest of their child.</i></b> Sadly, there are fully informed intelligent people who do not make decisions in the best interest of their child. But, I don't think the OP is one of them.

Scarlett81
10-05-2006, 12:35 PM
Hope you found your decision. It's important for all of us to keep an open mind when it comes to healthcare I think. There's so much to learn.

Thanks for the baby vibes!!!! I hope they worked on me!!!

Scarlett81
10-05-2006, 12:35 PM
Hope you found your decision. It's important for all of us to keep an open mind when it comes to healthcare I think. There's so much to learn.

Thanks for the baby vibes!!!! I hope they worked on me!!!

Scarlett81
10-05-2006, 12:35 PM
Hope you found your decision. It's important for all of us to keep an open mind when it comes to healthcare I think. There's so much to learn.

Thanks for the baby vibes!!!! I hope they worked on me!!!

bmombtoo
10-05-2006, 11:15 PM
MamaJ,<br>
<br>
I agree that we should all try to be more sensitive. We can have
our opinions and not offend, to not do that will drive some people
away.<br>
<br>
My three cents......Vaccinate and I would not skip any part of the
series.<br>
<br>
Additionally, you and anyone in his direct care (grandparents,
etc.)&nbsp;need a FLU shot. That is the recommendation in the US
for all families of children under age 3....we bring the flu to
them unknowingly. Our big systems may have only mild symptoms or no
symptoms at all.....but those little cute baby bodies can't fight
that off. The flu is usually a different variant or mutation each
year, main reason why we need a shot each year is that we can't
build up a natural resistance to something that is always
mutating.<br>
<br>
Best of luck with your bundle of joy and I can hear the love you
have for him in your writing. You are so right that touch heals by
soothing the body.

bmombtoo
10-05-2006, 11:15 PM
MamaJ,<br>
<br>
I agree that we should all try to be more sensitive. We can have
our opinions and not offend, to not do that will drive some people
away.<br>
<br>
My three cents......Vaccinate and I would not skip any part of the
series.<br>
<br>
Additionally, you and anyone in his direct care (grandparents,
etc.)&nbsp;need a FLU shot. That is the recommendation in the US
for all families of children under age 3....we bring the flu to
them unknowingly. Our big systems may have only mild symptoms or no
symptoms at all.....but those little cute baby bodies can't fight
that off. The flu is usually a different variant or mutation each
year, main reason why we need a shot each year is that we can't
build up a natural resistance to something that is always
mutating.<br>
<br>
Best of luck with your bundle of joy and I can hear the love you
have for him in your writing. You are so right that touch heals by
soothing the body.

bmombtoo
10-05-2006, 11:15 PM
MamaJ,<br>
<br>
I agree that we should all try to be more sensitive. We can have
our opinions and not offend, to not do that will drive some people
away.<br>
<br>
My three cents......Vaccinate and I would not skip any part of the
series.<br>
<br>
Additionally, you and anyone in his direct care (grandparents,
etc.)&nbsp;need a FLU shot. That is the recommendation in the US
for all families of children under age 3....we bring the flu to
them unknowingly. Our big systems may have only mild symptoms or no
symptoms at all.....but those little cute baby bodies can't fight
that off. The flu is usually a different variant or mutation each
year, main reason why we need a shot each year is that we can't
build up a natural resistance to something that is always
mutating.<br>
<br>
Best of luck with your bundle of joy and I can hear the love you
have for him in your writing. You are so right that touch heals by
soothing the body.

welshgirl
10-17-2006, 01:07 PM
when joe was due his mmr ( in the uk) we declined like a lot of other parents. mmr was and still is, thought to cause autism in some children. then joe was diagnosed age 6 yrs. we were strongly advised by joe's drs. to get him vaccinated which we did post haste!!!!!!!!!!!! but if he didn't have cf we definately would not have had him vaccinated. joe and us as a family have the flu and pnuemonia shot yearly.

welshgirl
10-17-2006, 01:07 PM
when joe was due his mmr ( in the uk) we declined like a lot of other parents. mmr was and still is, thought to cause autism in some children. then joe was diagnosed age 6 yrs. we were strongly advised by joe's drs. to get him vaccinated which we did post haste!!!!!!!!!!!! but if he didn't have cf we definately would not have had him vaccinated. joe and us as a family have the flu and pnuemonia shot yearly.

welshgirl
10-17-2006, 01:07 PM
when joe was due his mmr ( in the uk) we declined like a lot of other parents. mmr was and still is, thought to cause autism in some children. then joe was diagnosed age 6 yrs. we were strongly advised by joe's drs. to get him vaccinated which we did post haste!!!!!!!!!!!! but if he didn't have cf we definately would not have had him vaccinated. joe and us as a family have the flu and pnuemonia shot yearly.

caymancf
11-10-2006, 04:21 AM
My oldest son was dx at 6. There was no question for me to vaccinate any of my children ( I have 4, 3 boys and 1 girl)
I am so glad that I did vaccinate! I truly believe it helped to strenghthen his immune system. He ate dirt, played in the blue water in the toilet, was licked in the mouth by a friends dog and all before he could walk!!
He has never had any major health issue other than having chicken pox while on vacation in Italy. I also belive that in a household with multiple children, it is so important to vaccinate! There is less chance of the non-cfer bringing home some dirty bug for the cfer!
Ultimately, it is the choice of the parents and we must all respect each others choices.
Tiffany
Mother of 4
10yr old-cf
7 1/2yr old - carrier
6 yr old - carrier
14 month old - carrier

caymancf
11-10-2006, 04:21 AM
My oldest son was dx at 6. There was no question for me to vaccinate any of my children ( I have 4, 3 boys and 1 girl)
I am so glad that I did vaccinate! I truly believe it helped to strenghthen his immune system. He ate dirt, played in the blue water in the toilet, was licked in the mouth by a friends dog and all before he could walk!!
He has never had any major health issue other than having chicken pox while on vacation in Italy. I also belive that in a household with multiple children, it is so important to vaccinate! There is less chance of the non-cfer bringing home some dirty bug for the cfer!
Ultimately, it is the choice of the parents and we must all respect each others choices.
Tiffany
Mother of 4
10yr old-cf
7 1/2yr old - carrier
6 yr old - carrier
14 month old - carrier

caymancf
11-10-2006, 04:21 AM
My oldest son was dx at 6. There was no question for me to vaccinate any of my children ( I have 4, 3 boys and 1 girl)
I am so glad that I did vaccinate! I truly believe it helped to strenghthen his immune system. He ate dirt, played in the blue water in the toilet, was licked in the mouth by a friends dog and all before he could walk!!
He has never had any major health issue other than having chicken pox while on vacation in Italy. I also belive that in a household with multiple children, it is so important to vaccinate! There is less chance of the non-cfer bringing home some dirty bug for the cfer!
Ultimately, it is the choice of the parents and we must all respect each others choices.
Tiffany
Mother of 4
10yr old-cf
7 1/2yr old - carrier
6 yr old - carrier
14 month old - carrier

lilmac7
11-10-2006, 06:47 PM
Hi Tiffany! Nice to see you've found the site!! Repping Cayman to the fullest!!! lol

lilmac7
11-10-2006, 06:47 PM
Hi Tiffany! Nice to see you've found the site!! Repping Cayman to the fullest!!! lol

lilmac7
11-10-2006, 06:47 PM
Hi Tiffany! Nice to see you've found the site!! Repping Cayman to the fullest!!! lol

JRPandTJP
11-14-2006, 08:38 PM
This is a very personal decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly no matter if you do or if you don't. To blindly accept the medical community's fear-based approach to health and immunity is not taking responsibility for our children's health. A great book, whether you are a proponent or opponent or somewhere in between to read is "Vaccine's Are they really safe and effective? by Neil Z. Miller. This is not a down with vaccines book, but it can help one decide whether it is beneficial or even which ones are most important (not all are necessary).

Many people vaccinate with the false belief that immunity has been reached. This is not the case and the efficacy rates of vaccines has long been debated (can not even be tested due to the fact that we don't go around exposing our children to the disease to see if they get it or not). Current efficacy rates are based on levels of antibodies present (which is not an indication of whether someone will get the disease or not) rather than infection rates among vaccinated versus unvaccinated. It is estimated that as little as 10-15 percent of vaccinated people are actually immune. This is why whooping cough is still prevalent today and most cases are found in vaccinated children.

If you truly research the topic and you will find that the decline in many of the diseases we vaccinate for is not related to the vaccine itself. Increased nutritional and sanitary measures deserve much of the credit. Several of the diseases were in their own eveolutionary cycle adn on the decline before vaccination begun. This can be shown for almost every disease we vaccinate for. Many of the diseases are also not what you have been trained to believe about them. They are inconvenient yes, but manageable.

Most importantly, no one, even doctors, know the long-term problems that may be related to vaccination. There is evidence that we as a people have not grown healthier since we started mass immunization. In fact the opposite is true. We have more chronic disease than ever before and we have a huge increasing number of children with ADHD/ADD/PPD/Autism, many of whom report reactions after vaccination.

I have a personal friend, whom I met after we made the decision (after much research) not to vaccinate, whose child was injured by his vaccines and is severely autistic. You can quote any study you'd like but they KNOW the moment when their son's brain function was changed forever. This happened after he had mild reactions to the first few rounds of shots and finally a seizure after the last and final one which caused this permanent damage.

If you choose to vaccinate, you have a right to ask for the schedule to be delayed or changed to give the baby's spinal and nervous system a chance to close down (it can take 1+ years). This is related to the milar sheath becoming closed (you'd have to look this up on your own). This is why people wait. The nervous system will be less suseptible to damage after this period of time. In this time, with breast milk, the immune system will build it's own antibodies from the mother and the thymus gland will be strengthened as well. You can also ask to separate the vaccinations so that the exposure to the number of antigens per shot is less. Overloading the immune system with multiple vaccinations at once is also of concern for many chidlren.

A child should never be vaccinated if they are ill, fevering, or other family members have been ill. This weakened state raises the risk for reaction as well.


<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.osteomed.com/Vaccines.html
">http://www.osteomed.com/Vaccines.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.909shot.com/
">http://www.909shot.com/
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thinktwice.com/autism.htm">http://thinktwice.com/autism.htm</a>

Research and then no matter what you choose it will be based on truth, not propaganada!

JRPandTJP
11-14-2006, 08:38 PM
This is a very personal decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly no matter if you do or if you don't. To blindly accept the medical community's fear-based approach to health and immunity is not taking responsibility for our children's health. A great book, whether you are a proponent or opponent or somewhere in between to read is "Vaccine's Are they really safe and effective? by Neil Z. Miller. This is not a down with vaccines book, but it can help one decide whether it is beneficial or even which ones are most important (not all are necessary).

Many people vaccinate with the false belief that immunity has been reached. This is not the case and the efficacy rates of vaccines has long been debated (can not even be tested due to the fact that we don't go around exposing our children to the disease to see if they get it or not). Current efficacy rates are based on levels of antibodies present (which is not an indication of whether someone will get the disease or not) rather than infection rates among vaccinated versus unvaccinated. It is estimated that as little as 10-15 percent of vaccinated people are actually immune. This is why whooping cough is still prevalent today and most cases are found in vaccinated children.

If you truly research the topic and you will find that the decline in many of the diseases we vaccinate for is not related to the vaccine itself. Increased nutritional and sanitary measures deserve much of the credit. Several of the diseases were in their own eveolutionary cycle adn on the decline before vaccination begun. This can be shown for almost every disease we vaccinate for. Many of the diseases are also not what you have been trained to believe about them. They are inconvenient yes, but manageable.

Most importantly, no one, even doctors, know the long-term problems that may be related to vaccination. There is evidence that we as a people have not grown healthier since we started mass immunization. In fact the opposite is true. We have more chronic disease than ever before and we have a huge increasing number of children with ADHD/ADD/PPD/Autism, many of whom report reactions after vaccination.

I have a personal friend, whom I met after we made the decision (after much research) not to vaccinate, whose child was injured by his vaccines and is severely autistic. You can quote any study you'd like but they KNOW the moment when their son's brain function was changed forever. This happened after he had mild reactions to the first few rounds of shots and finally a seizure after the last and final one which caused this permanent damage.

If you choose to vaccinate, you have a right to ask for the schedule to be delayed or changed to give the baby's spinal and nervous system a chance to close down (it can take 1+ years). This is related to the milar sheath becoming closed (you'd have to look this up on your own). This is why people wait. The nervous system will be less suseptible to damage after this period of time. In this time, with breast milk, the immune system will build it's own antibodies from the mother and the thymus gland will be strengthened as well. You can also ask to separate the vaccinations so that the exposure to the number of antigens per shot is less. Overloading the immune system with multiple vaccinations at once is also of concern for many chidlren.

A child should never be vaccinated if they are ill, fevering, or other family members have been ill. This weakened state raises the risk for reaction as well.


<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.osteomed.com/Vaccines.html
">http://www.osteomed.com/Vaccines.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.909shot.com/
">http://www.909shot.com/
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thinktwice.com/autism.htm">http://thinktwice.com/autism.htm</a>

Research and then no matter what you choose it will be based on truth, not propaganada!

JRPandTJP
11-14-2006, 08:38 PM
This is a very personal decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly no matter if you do or if you don't. To blindly accept the medical community's fear-based approach to health and immunity is not taking responsibility for our children's health. A great book, whether you are a proponent or opponent or somewhere in between to read is "Vaccine's Are they really safe and effective? by Neil Z. Miller. This is not a down with vaccines book, but it can help one decide whether it is beneficial or even which ones are most important (not all are necessary).

Many people vaccinate with the false belief that immunity has been reached. This is not the case and the efficacy rates of vaccines has long been debated (can not even be tested due to the fact that we don't go around exposing our children to the disease to see if they get it or not). Current efficacy rates are based on levels of antibodies present (which is not an indication of whether someone will get the disease or not) rather than infection rates among vaccinated versus unvaccinated. It is estimated that as little as 10-15 percent of vaccinated people are actually immune. This is why whooping cough is still prevalent today and most cases are found in vaccinated children.

If you truly research the topic and you will find that the decline in many of the diseases we vaccinate for is not related to the vaccine itself. Increased nutritional and sanitary measures deserve much of the credit. Several of the diseases were in their own eveolutionary cycle adn on the decline before vaccination begun. This can be shown for almost every disease we vaccinate for. Many of the diseases are also not what you have been trained to believe about them. They are inconvenient yes, but manageable.

Most importantly, no one, even doctors, know the long-term problems that may be related to vaccination. There is evidence that we as a people have not grown healthier since we started mass immunization. In fact the opposite is true. We have more chronic disease than ever before and we have a huge increasing number of children with ADHD/ADD/PPD/Autism, many of whom report reactions after vaccination.

I have a personal friend, whom I met after we made the decision (after much research) not to vaccinate, whose child was injured by his vaccines and is severely autistic. You can quote any study you'd like but they KNOW the moment when their son's brain function was changed forever. This happened after he had mild reactions to the first few rounds of shots and finally a seizure after the last and final one which caused this permanent damage.

If you choose to vaccinate, you have a right to ask for the schedule to be delayed or changed to give the baby's spinal and nervous system a chance to close down (it can take 1+ years). This is related to the milar sheath becoming closed (you'd have to look this up on your own). This is why people wait. The nervous system will be less suseptible to damage after this period of time. In this time, with breast milk, the immune system will build it's own antibodies from the mother and the thymus gland will be strengthened as well. You can also ask to separate the vaccinations so that the exposure to the number of antigens per shot is less. Overloading the immune system with multiple vaccinations at once is also of concern for many chidlren.

A child should never be vaccinated if they are ill, fevering, or other family members have been ill. This weakened state raises the risk for reaction as well.


<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.osteomed.com/Vaccines.html
">http://www.osteomed.com/Vaccines.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.909shot.com/
">http://www.909shot.com/
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://thinktwice.com/autism.htm">http://thinktwice.com/autism.htm</a>

Research and then no matter what you choose it will be based on truth, not propaganada!

anonymous
11-14-2006, 10:03 PM
HI,

I am waiting until the age of two before i vaccinate my son for some things too. (He hasn't had any vaccines yet but he still breastfeeds alot (and is not in daycare) which provides protection from most things for which i have been vaccinated for. Also i intend to breastfeed at least until the age of two. My husband does insist that i vaccinate my son for whooping cough at the age of 1 year. I am insisting that each vaccine be adminstered at 6 month intervals and that each of them be single vaccines only. (For instance instead of having MMR in one shot he would have mumps, wait 6 months, then measles, wait 6 months and then rubella. ) Just out of curiousity, what vaccines are you starting with???

anonymous
11-14-2006, 10:03 PM
HI,

I am waiting until the age of two before i vaccinate my son for some things too. (He hasn't had any vaccines yet but he still breastfeeds alot (and is not in daycare) which provides protection from most things for which i have been vaccinated for. Also i intend to breastfeed at least until the age of two. My husband does insist that i vaccinate my son for whooping cough at the age of 1 year. I am insisting that each vaccine be adminstered at 6 month intervals and that each of them be single vaccines only. (For instance instead of having MMR in one shot he would have mumps, wait 6 months, then measles, wait 6 months and then rubella. ) Just out of curiousity, what vaccines are you starting with???

anonymous
11-14-2006, 10:03 PM
HI,

I am waiting until the age of two before i vaccinate my son for some things too. (He hasn't had any vaccines yet but he still breastfeeds alot (and is not in daycare) which provides protection from most things for which i have been vaccinated for. Also i intend to breastfeed at least until the age of two. My husband does insist that i vaccinate my son for whooping cough at the age of 1 year. I am insisting that each vaccine be adminstered at 6 month intervals and that each of them be single vaccines only. (For instance instead of having MMR in one shot he would have mumps, wait 6 months, then measles, wait 6 months and then rubella. ) Just out of curiousity, what vaccines are you starting with???

anonymous
11-14-2006, 10:43 PM
Hi

I'm the above poster again.
Jodi, I absolutely agree with you!

Their is some evidence suggesting that the rise of the autoimmune disorder multiple sclerosis could be related to the rise of vaccinations. (i think jodi meant the myelin sheath in her above post which is what is attacked by the immune system in the case of multiple sclerosis) If you think about it, routine vaccination as a preventative measure has only been around since the 50's which is not quite the lifespan of a single human so how in the world could the chronic, long term effects of vaccines possibly be yet known??? In my opinion it is one big experiment for which the results are not yet in.

In addition to all of the long term unknowns associated with vaccination, they just keep adding more and more vaccines to the list an infant recieves and they definately don't know the consequences of bombarding a developing immune system with so many vaccines! Also the goverment accepts that there is a small percentage of childern that will not react well to the vaccines and will die. This, though unlikely, is a real consequence of vaccination that the government accepts because of the benefits of vaccines to public health. I am certainly not 100% against vaccination. I think that it is a very useful preventative tool. However i think that all parents should be wary of the large volumes of vaccines that are recommended during infancy and should research each vaccines and make an informed descsion. For instance, why are infants being vaccinated against hepatitis b? I think this action could be very useful in the case of the mother being positve for hep b herself but otherwise i just don't understand it. I don't know any infants that engage in sexual activity or french kiss strangers so if the mother doesn't have hep b than why not wait until puberty???? The reason for this vaccination in infancy is because it takes 3 shots seperated by months before hep b immunity is developed. Infancy is the only time children regularly visit the doctor so they have to get all those shots in before the babies become childern otherwise it might not happen.



The reason that the government recommends that these vaccinations be done in infancy is because that is one of the only times in a child's life that they are regularly seen by a doctor. The logic is that, if the vaccines are not administered while the childern are available they might not get administered at all and a outbreak will occur. Also breastfeeding provides alot of protection to the infant, so the breastfed infant will be protected from polio, HIb, etc through antibodies and t-cells that passes through the vaccinated mother's breastmillk.


I am NOT vaccinating my child for chickenpox. For a child, chicken pox it is not a life threatening illness however it is far more serious for adults and the vaccine does a very poor job of protecting people against infection so it is much better to get the illness as a child.


I realize how difficult this decision is to make. It was the most difficult desicion of my life so i absolutly understand why parents choose to vaccinate. I didn't decide to eliminate all vaccines but i am opting not to do many of them. And as i stated above i am waiting until my son is two before i allow them to administer the majority of the vaccines that i consent too.

anonymous
11-14-2006, 10:43 PM
Hi

I'm the above poster again.
Jodi, I absolutely agree with you!

Their is some evidence suggesting that the rise of the autoimmune disorder multiple sclerosis could be related to the rise of vaccinations. (i think jodi meant the myelin sheath in her above post which is what is attacked by the immune system in the case of multiple sclerosis) If you think about it, routine vaccination as a preventative measure has only been around since the 50's which is not quite the lifespan of a single human so how in the world could the chronic, long term effects of vaccines possibly be yet known??? In my opinion it is one big experiment for which the results are not yet in.

In addition to all of the long term unknowns associated with vaccination, they just keep adding more and more vaccines to the list an infant recieves and they definately don't know the consequences of bombarding a developing immune system with so many vaccines! Also the goverment accepts that there is a small percentage of childern that will not react well to the vaccines and will die. This, though unlikely, is a real consequence of vaccination that the government accepts because of the benefits of vaccines to public health. I am certainly not 100% against vaccination. I think that it is a very useful preventative tool. However i think that all parents should be wary of the large volumes of vaccines that are recommended during infancy and should research each vaccines and make an informed descsion. For instance, why are infants being vaccinated against hepatitis b? I think this action could be very useful in the case of the mother being positve for hep b herself but otherwise i just don't understand it. I don't know any infants that engage in sexual activity or french kiss strangers so if the mother doesn't have hep b than why not wait until puberty???? The reason for this vaccination in infancy is because it takes 3 shots seperated by months before hep b immunity is developed. Infancy is the only time children regularly visit the doctor so they have to get all those shots in before the babies become childern otherwise it might not happen.



The reason that the government recommends that these vaccinations be done in infancy is because that is one of the only times in a child's life that they are regularly seen by a doctor. The logic is that, if the vaccines are not administered while the childern are available they might not get administered at all and a outbreak will occur. Also breastfeeding provides alot of protection to the infant, so the breastfed infant will be protected from polio, HIb, etc through antibodies and t-cells that passes through the vaccinated mother's breastmillk.


I am NOT vaccinating my child for chickenpox. For a child, chicken pox it is not a life threatening illness however it is far more serious for adults and the vaccine does a very poor job of protecting people against infection so it is much better to get the illness as a child.


I realize how difficult this decision is to make. It was the most difficult desicion of my life so i absolutly understand why parents choose to vaccinate. I didn't decide to eliminate all vaccines but i am opting not to do many of them. And as i stated above i am waiting until my son is two before i allow them to administer the majority of the vaccines that i consent too.

anonymous
11-14-2006, 10:43 PM
Hi

I'm the above poster again.
Jodi, I absolutely agree with you!

Their is some evidence suggesting that the rise of the autoimmune disorder multiple sclerosis could be related to the rise of vaccinations. (i think jodi meant the myelin sheath in her above post which is what is attacked by the immune system in the case of multiple sclerosis) If you think about it, routine vaccination as a preventative measure has only been around since the 50's which is not quite the lifespan of a single human so how in the world could the chronic, long term effects of vaccines possibly be yet known??? In my opinion it is one big experiment for which the results are not yet in.

In addition to all of the long term unknowns associated with vaccination, they just keep adding more and more vaccines to the list an infant recieves and they definately don't know the consequences of bombarding a developing immune system with so many vaccines! Also the goverment accepts that there is a small percentage of childern that will not react well to the vaccines and will die. This, though unlikely, is a real consequence of vaccination that the government accepts because of the benefits of vaccines to public health. I am certainly not 100% against vaccination. I think that it is a very useful preventative tool. However i think that all parents should be wary of the large volumes of vaccines that are recommended during infancy and should research each vaccines and make an informed descsion. For instance, why are infants being vaccinated against hepatitis b? I think this action could be very useful in the case of the mother being positve for hep b herself but otherwise i just don't understand it. I don't know any infants that engage in sexual activity or french kiss strangers so if the mother doesn't have hep b than why not wait until puberty???? The reason for this vaccination in infancy is because it takes 3 shots seperated by months before hep b immunity is developed. Infancy is the only time children regularly visit the doctor so they have to get all those shots in before the babies become childern otherwise it might not happen.



The reason that the government recommends that these vaccinations be done in infancy is because that is one of the only times in a child's life that they are regularly seen by a doctor. The logic is that, if the vaccines are not administered while the childern are available they might not get administered at all and a outbreak will occur. Also breastfeeding provides alot of protection to the infant, so the breastfed infant will be protected from polio, HIb, etc through antibodies and t-cells that passes through the vaccinated mother's breastmillk.


I am NOT vaccinating my child for chickenpox. For a child, chicken pox it is not a life threatening illness however it is far more serious for adults and the vaccine does a very poor job of protecting people against infection so it is much better to get the illness as a child.


I realize how difficult this decision is to make. It was the most difficult desicion of my life so i absolutly understand why parents choose to vaccinate. I didn't decide to eliminate all vaccines but i am opting not to do many of them. And as i stated above i am waiting until my son is two before i allow them to administer the majority of the vaccines that i consent too.

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:01 AM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I am NOT vaccinating my child for chickenpox. For a child, chicken pox it is not a life threatening illness however it is far more serious for adults and the vaccine does a very poor job of protecting people against infection so it is much better to get the illness as a child. </end quote></div>

Just thought I'd let you know that varicella (chickenpox) is the greatest vaccine preventable killer of children in the US. Also, the vaccine is about 85% effective, and if a vaccinated person does get it, it should be a mild case. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf">chickenpox info</a>

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:01 AM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I am NOT vaccinating my child for chickenpox. For a child, chicken pox it is not a life threatening illness however it is far more serious for adults and the vaccine does a very poor job of protecting people against infection so it is much better to get the illness as a child. </end quote></div>

Just thought I'd let you know that varicella (chickenpox) is the greatest vaccine preventable killer of children in the US. Also, the vaccine is about 85% effective, and if a vaccinated person does get it, it should be a mild case. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf">chickenpox info</a>

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:01 AM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I am NOT vaccinating my child for chickenpox. For a child, chicken pox it is not a life threatening illness however it is far more serious for adults and the vaccine does a very poor job of protecting people against infection so it is much better to get the illness as a child. </end quote></div>

Just thought I'd let you know that varicella (chickenpox) is the greatest vaccine preventable killer of children in the US. Also, the vaccine is about 85% effective, and if a vaccinated person does get it, it should be a mild case. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf">chickenpox info</a>

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:04 AM
let me try that link again <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf">www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varic...mpleOpEdChickenpox.pdf</a>

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:04 AM
let me try that link again <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf">www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varic...mpleOpEdChickenpox.pdf</a>

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:04 AM
let me try that link again <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf">www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varic...mpleOpEdChickenpox.pdf</a>

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:06 AM
alright I give up I xan't get the link to work but if you want to read it go to

www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:06 AM
alright I give up I xan't get the link to work but if you want to read it go to

www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf

anonymous
11-15-2006, 02:06 AM
alright I give up I xan't get the link to work but if you want to read it go to

www.cdc.gov-nip-diseases-varicella-SampleOpEdChickenpox.pdf

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:28 AM
children do not die of chicken pox...IF a complication occurs and IF it is not treated appropriately and IF the secondary infection overwhelms their immune system then death MAY occur. Unless there is no access to medical attention or an individuals parents live in horrible conditions where natural healing is compromised, this is highly unlikely. This is an inconvenience disease and life-time immunity occurs after contraction. No biggy!! I got it as an adult (right before prom and graduation) and was fine.

When it was first introduced the inserts actually warned people that vaccinated indivuals could transmit the vaccine virus to close contacts and "should avoid close association with susceptible high-risk individuals" such as newborns (hello, this is who is receiving it), pregnant women, and immono-compromised individuals. Today's label still lists "secondary transmission of virus can occur." In addition, the CDC and FDA receive reports that recipients develop herpes zoster or shingles which can last several weeks or more. With these live vacines "as immunity declines, the laten virus wakes up" causing problems in some vaccinated people long after vaccination occurs.

Who created this site...the CDC or the chicken pox vaccine manufacturers...oh I bet it was both.

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:28 AM
children do not die of chicken pox...IF a complication occurs and IF it is not treated appropriately and IF the secondary infection overwhelms their immune system then death MAY occur. Unless there is no access to medical attention or an individuals parents live in horrible conditions where natural healing is compromised, this is highly unlikely. This is an inconvenience disease and life-time immunity occurs after contraction. No biggy!! I got it as an adult (right before prom and graduation) and was fine.

When it was first introduced the inserts actually warned people that vaccinated indivuals could transmit the vaccine virus to close contacts and "should avoid close association with susceptible high-risk individuals" such as newborns (hello, this is who is receiving it), pregnant women, and immono-compromised individuals. Today's label still lists "secondary transmission of virus can occur." In addition, the CDC and FDA receive reports that recipients develop herpes zoster or shingles which can last several weeks or more. With these live vacines "as immunity declines, the laten virus wakes up" causing problems in some vaccinated people long after vaccination occurs.

Who created this site...the CDC or the chicken pox vaccine manufacturers...oh I bet it was both.

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:28 AM
children do not die of chicken pox...IF a complication occurs and IF it is not treated appropriately and IF the secondary infection overwhelms their immune system then death MAY occur. Unless there is no access to medical attention or an individuals parents live in horrible conditions where natural healing is compromised, this is highly unlikely. This is an inconvenience disease and life-time immunity occurs after contraction. No biggy!! I got it as an adult (right before prom and graduation) and was fine.

When it was first introduced the inserts actually warned people that vaccinated indivuals could transmit the vaccine virus to close contacts and "should avoid close association with susceptible high-risk individuals" such as newborns (hello, this is who is receiving it), pregnant women, and immono-compromised individuals. Today's label still lists "secondary transmission of virus can occur." In addition, the CDC and FDA receive reports that recipients develop herpes zoster or shingles which can last several weeks or more. With these live vacines "as immunity declines, the laten virus wakes up" causing problems in some vaccinated people long after vaccination occurs.

Who created this site...the CDC or the chicken pox vaccine manufacturers...oh I bet it was both.

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:39 AM
anon, you are a smart consumer of vacination products. your strategy is obviously well researched. our son is 2 1/2 and will not receive vaccinations. we both do not feel the proposed benefits out-way the risks. but this is what we are comfortable with after our extensive research. we didn't know what we know now with our daughter and i so wish I hadn't vaccinated her.

honestly, what I hope is that those who choose not to will simply encourage the CDC and manufactuers of these products to create better options. this mass immunization schedule is of concern and the contaminents are as well. we as the public need to make them do a better job and reconsider the volume of weakened disease germs they inject into children whose immune systems are not fully developed.

Just MHO. This topic needs to be debated and things need to change on behalf of the children who have no voice.

Jody

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:39 AM
anon, you are a smart consumer of vacination products. your strategy is obviously well researched. our son is 2 1/2 and will not receive vaccinations. we both do not feel the proposed benefits out-way the risks. but this is what we are comfortable with after our extensive research. we didn't know what we know now with our daughter and i so wish I hadn't vaccinated her.

honestly, what I hope is that those who choose not to will simply encourage the CDC and manufactuers of these products to create better options. this mass immunization schedule is of concern and the contaminents are as well. we as the public need to make them do a better job and reconsider the volume of weakened disease germs they inject into children whose immune systems are not fully developed.

Just MHO. This topic needs to be debated and things need to change on behalf of the children who have no voice.

Jody

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:39 AM
anon, you are a smart consumer of vacination products. your strategy is obviously well researched. our son is 2 1/2 and will not receive vaccinations. we both do not feel the proposed benefits out-way the risks. but this is what we are comfortable with after our extensive research. we didn't know what we know now with our daughter and i so wish I hadn't vaccinated her.

honestly, what I hope is that those who choose not to will simply encourage the CDC and manufactuers of these products to create better options. this mass immunization schedule is of concern and the contaminents are as well. we as the public need to make them do a better job and reconsider the volume of weakened disease germs they inject into children whose immune systems are not fully developed.

Just MHO. This topic needs to be debated and things need to change on behalf of the children who have no voice.

Jody

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:44 AM
anon, we also breastfed until 20 months. no better way to help and protect our children. I created a breastfeeding support site for moms of CF babies if you'd like to visit it go to www.cfnutrition4life.com THe nutrition site is not complete yet but will hopefully be a place to explore ideas and get ideas on health and cooking for our families.

Jody

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:44 AM
anon, we also breastfed until 20 months. no better way to help and protect our children. I created a breastfeeding support site for moms of CF babies if you'd like to visit it go to www.cfnutrition4life.com THe nutrition site is not complete yet but will hopefully be a place to explore ideas and get ideas on health and cooking for our families.

Jody

JRPandTJP
11-15-2006, 03:44 AM
anon, we also breastfed until 20 months. no better way to help and protect our children. I created a breastfeeding support site for moms of CF babies if you'd like to visit it go to www.cfnutrition4life.com THe nutrition site is not complete yet but will hopefully be a place to explore ideas and get ideas on health and cooking for our families.

Jody

Ann06
11-16-2006, 01:02 AM
We had the same delimna when we found out our son had CF. We decided to vacinate when he was 6 months old. It was hard b/c my hubby was against all vaccinations, but the doctor recommended it. So, we did it.

Ann06
11-16-2006, 01:02 AM
We had the same delimna when we found out our son had CF. We decided to vacinate when he was 6 months old. It was hard b/c my hubby was against all vaccinations, but the doctor recommended it. So, we did it.

Ann06
11-16-2006, 01:02 AM
We had the same delimna when we found out our son had CF. We decided to vacinate when he was 6 months old. It was hard b/c my hubby was against all vaccinations, but the doctor recommended it. So, we did it.

Olymama
04-12-2007, 09:51 PM
Hi Jana,

This is the first time I am writing on this site.

I don't know if this will be read as this topic was posted months ago but I just wanted to thank you for posting this. My son is going in for his two month check up and I had the same concerns as you and was going to start a thread if one hadn't already been started. I am curious to what ones you put off until your son turns two?

Begining with the birth of my boy I am being challenged on many levels of what I hoped parenthood would be like for me. I was going for a home birth and after a rough labor I was rushed to the hospital for an emergency c-section, then 2&1/2 weeks later River was diagnosed with cf. I always been for preventative care, leary of anitbiotics and vaccines. Now it looks like I will have to get used to River being on anitbiotics, though he hasn't needed them yet. and he will being getting more vaccines then I was originally planning.

I would love to hear from you.

Amanda

Olymama
04-12-2007, 09:51 PM
Hi Jana,

This is the first time I am writing on this site.

I don't know if this will be read as this topic was posted months ago but I just wanted to thank you for posting this. My son is going in for his two month check up and I had the same concerns as you and was going to start a thread if one hadn't already been started. I am curious to what ones you put off until your son turns two?

Begining with the birth of my boy I am being challenged on many levels of what I hoped parenthood would be like for me. I was going for a home birth and after a rough labor I was rushed to the hospital for an emergency c-section, then 2&1/2 weeks later River was diagnosed with cf. I always been for preventative care, leary of anitbiotics and vaccines. Now it looks like I will have to get used to River being on anitbiotics, though he hasn't needed them yet. and he will being getting more vaccines then I was originally planning.

I would love to hear from you.

Amanda

Olymama
04-12-2007, 09:51 PM
Hi Jana,

This is the first time I am writing on this site.

I don't know if this will be read as this topic was posted months ago but I just wanted to thank you for posting this. My son is going in for his two month check up and I had the same concerns as you and was going to start a thread if one hadn't already been started. I am curious to what ones you put off until your son turns two?

Begining with the birth of my boy I am being challenged on many levels of what I hoped parenthood would be like for me. I was going for a home birth and after a rough labor I was rushed to the hospital for an emergency c-section, then 2&1/2 weeks later River was diagnosed with cf. I always been for preventative care, leary of anitbiotics and vaccines. Now it looks like I will have to get used to River being on anitbiotics, though he hasn't needed them yet. and he will being getting more vaccines then I was originally planning.

I would love to hear from you.

Amanda

craigsmum
04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
Hi

Glad to hear you will get the little one all vaccinations that is needed. Please make sure this will include the flu vaccination as this is also very important. We got our son Craig everything we were told to get him. Before Craig arrived we to were very worried about this subject, so i know how you are feeling. Hope everything works out ok.

Liz

craigsmum
04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
Hi

Glad to hear you will get the little one all vaccinations that is needed. Please make sure this will include the flu vaccination as this is also very important. We got our son Craig everything we were told to get him. Before Craig arrived we to were very worried about this subject, so i know how you are feeling. Hope everything works out ok.

Liz

craigsmum
04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
Hi

Glad to hear you will get the little one all vaccinations that is needed. Please make sure this will include the flu vaccination as this is also very important. We got our son Craig everything we were told to get him. Before Craig arrived we to were very worried about this subject, so i know how you are feeling. Hope everything works out ok.

Liz

PACmommy
04-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Wow, what a hard subject, it has really made me think.
Personally, I feel that kids should be vaccined, I'm not usually the first to jump on conspiracy theory bandwagons, so I do believe that the medical community and government are looking out for our best interest when it comes to the health system here in Canada, where I do believe you stated you are from.
First I think we need to look at the anatomy of virusses and vaccines. Vaccines are dead virusses that are injected into our system. Once there, white blood cells attack them, as they do also when virusses enter our system. The white blood cells then take the virus DNA back to our lymph system, which makes a copy so that if that virus ever enters our system again, the white blood cells will automatically recognize it and kill it. Therefore if you get the chicken pox once you won't get it again. Or if you get the shot, you should not get it at all.
To sum up the only way to build up your immune system against
dangerous virusses is to either contract the virus or to be immunized from it.
Second, since you are Canadian, I hope you remember the scary time last year when there was a rubella outbreak in southwestern Ontario because a community of people decided not to have the MMR shot based on religious grounds. Many where sick and alot of pregnant women were very scared since the disease affects the unborn children. Therefore vaccinations are not only a responsibility to our families but to the health of society in general. The only way to keep serious diseases irradicated is to all be on board with public health.
Third (I really wish I could remember my source), the chemical that was thought to be culprit to autism in the MMR has not been used in some time, as well, the increased incidence to autism is believed to be attributed to heightened awareness and earlier diagnosis. Links to Vaccinations is now believed to be more coincidental.
Alot to ponder, I hope this helps, oh! and sorry for writing a novel.

PACmommy
04-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Wow, what a hard subject, it has really made me think.
Personally, I feel that kids should be vaccined, I'm not usually the first to jump on conspiracy theory bandwagons, so I do believe that the medical community and government are looking out for our best interest when it comes to the health system here in Canada, where I do believe you stated you are from.
First I think we need to look at the anatomy of virusses and vaccines. Vaccines are dead virusses that are injected into our system. Once there, white blood cells attack them, as they do also when virusses enter our system. The white blood cells then take the virus DNA back to our lymph system, which makes a copy so that if that virus ever enters our system again, the white blood cells will automatically recognize it and kill it. Therefore if you get the chicken pox once you won't get it again. Or if you get the shot, you should not get it at all.
To sum up the only way to build up your immune system against
dangerous virusses is to either contract the virus or to be immunized from it.
Second, since you are Canadian, I hope you remember the scary time last year when there was a rubella outbreak in southwestern Ontario because a community of people decided not to have the MMR shot based on religious grounds. Many where sick and alot of pregnant women were very scared since the disease affects the unborn children. Therefore vaccinations are not only a responsibility to our families but to the health of society in general. The only way to keep serious diseases irradicated is to all be on board with public health.
Third (I really wish I could remember my source), the chemical that was thought to be culprit to autism in the MMR has not been used in some time, as well, the increased incidence to autism is believed to be attributed to heightened awareness and earlier diagnosis. Links to Vaccinations is now believed to be more coincidental.
Alot to ponder, I hope this helps, oh! and sorry for writing a novel.

PACmommy
04-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Wow, what a hard subject, it has really made me think.
Personally, I feel that kids should be vaccined, I'm not usually the first to jump on conspiracy theory bandwagons, so I do believe that the medical community and government are looking out for our best interest when it comes to the health system here in Canada, where I do believe you stated you are from.
First I think we need to look at the anatomy of virusses and vaccines. Vaccines are dead virusses that are injected into our system. Once there, white blood cells attack them, as they do also when virusses enter our system. The white blood cells then take the virus DNA back to our lymph system, which makes a copy so that if that virus ever enters our system again, the white blood cells will automatically recognize it and kill it. Therefore if you get the chicken pox once you won't get it again. Or if you get the shot, you should not get it at all.
To sum up the only way to build up your immune system against
dangerous virusses is to either contract the virus or to be immunized from it.
Second, since you are Canadian, I hope you remember the scary time last year when there was a rubella outbreak in southwestern Ontario because a community of people decided not to have the MMR shot based on religious grounds. Many where sick and alot of pregnant women were very scared since the disease affects the unborn children. Therefore vaccinations are not only a responsibility to our families but to the health of society in general. The only way to keep serious diseases irradicated is to all be on board with public health.
Third (I really wish I could remember my source), the chemical that was thought to be culprit to autism in the MMR has not been used in some time, as well, the increased incidence to autism is believed to be attributed to heightened awareness and earlier diagnosis. Links to Vaccinations is now believed to be more coincidental.
Alot to ponder, I hope this helps, oh! and sorry for writing a novel.